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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      True, NAS would be an option. I'm simply looking at alternative in a very general light of anything other than laCie as 2 distinct units have both had drives fail with 3 weeks of each other.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        My goal personally in any system would be to have the storage directly attached to the server. And not use external USB drives as network shares.

        That's not a goal, that's still a solution. A goal should have no technical bits in it whatsoever. What reason would the CEO have for requesting this storage? How would he say it to you? Not how an IT person would state what they think is the solution.

        The goal would be something along the lines of "We have a large number of documents that need to be used simultaneously by a few dozen users."

        Then we can whittle down technical requirements from there.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          @DustinB3403 I edited your last statement to add a much needed comma that kind of changes the meaning of the post.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            If NAS is an option, that changes everything. The whole set of problems that you are facing (not business class, bizarre sounding requirements, etc.) is all because NAS is being ruled out. We still need to think at the goal level, but almost certainly the answer here would be NAS, not a USB drive bay.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates
              last edited by stacksofplates

              If a NAS is possible, we have a Synology DS414j and it seems to work fine. No issues (yet). It's a 4 bay, not a 2.

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              • Reid CooperR
                Reid Cooper @stacksofplates
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                @johnhooks said:

                If a NAS is possible, we have a Synology DS414j and it seems to work fine. No issues (yet). It's a 4 bay, not a 2.

                The DS214 should be a two bay.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  The DS214 is available in the fire proof ioSafe option too from @robb-moore's company.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    Then the goal would be.

                    We have a lot of data that needs to be available for reference in the future, just in case a client ever needs or wants to use it again, how can we save this data?

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @Reid Cooper
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                      @Reid-Cooper said:

                      @johnhooks said:

                      If a NAS is possible, we have a Synology DS414j and it seems to work fine. No issues (yet). It's a 4 bay, not a 2.

                      The DS214 should be a two bay.

                      I was just pointing out ours was a 4, in case he wanted to look at that model. And it's only ~$50 more than the 214+ 😛

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        Then the goal would be.

                        We have a lot of data that needs to be available for reference in the future, just in case a client ever needs or wants to use it again, how can we save this data?

                        Why couldn't you use something like onedrive? 1TB for $7 a month and you get Office 365 (if you're using Windows).

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          Then the goal would be.

                          We have a lot of data that needs to be available for reference in the future, just in case a client ever needs or wants to use it again, how can we save this data?

                          The the next questions would be...

                          • How quickly do you need to retrieve it?
                          • Is this the archive or the backup of an archive?
                          • How does it need to be accessed or how do you feel the access will take place?
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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller

                            Retrieval must support on-demand (at customer request)
                            It's the archive nothing more.
                            Accessed as a network share so the department who is building these files can also archive them at the EoL (for that file)

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              @scottalanmiller

                              Retrieval must support on-demand (at customer request)
                              It's the archive nothing more.
                              Accessed as a network share so the department who is building these files can also archive them at the EoL (for that file)

                              Sounds like a NAS like the DS214 is ideal. You get the storage you need with the minimum in complexity. No reason to connect to a VM at all, the unit would be completely stand alone. Fewer parts to fail, easier management, better performance. You win all the way around.

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                              • Reid CooperR
                                Reid Cooper
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                                ReadyNAS has a nice two bay unit as well.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes Synology (and ioSafe by extension) and ReadyNAS are my standard "go to" recommendations for this type of gear, especially at this scale.

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                                  • Deleted74295D
                                    Deleted74295 Banned @stacksofplates
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                                    @johnhooks said:

                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    Then the goal would be.

                                    We have a lot of data that needs to be available for reference in the future, just in case a client ever needs or wants to use it again, how can we save this data?

                                    Why couldn't you use something like onedrive? 1TB for $7 a month and you get Office 365 (if you're using Windows).

                                    One Drive is the worst product in the 365 range.

                                    Until they fix the arbitary SharePoint limitations and the broken sync client It's not something easily used.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Deleted74295
                                      last edited by Dashrender

                                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                                      One Drive is the worst product in the 365 range.

                                      Until they fix the arbitary SharePoint limitations and the broken sync client It's not something easily used.

                                      That's not One Drive, it's One Drive for Business - sadly, it's very important delineate that difference whenever possible because of the extreme difference between those two products even though lay people will consider them mostly the same for no reason other than the name.

                                      The same could be said for Skype and Skype for Business (old Lync).

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @Breffni-Potter said:

                                        One Drive is the worst product in the 365 range.

                                        Until they fix the arbitary SharePoint limitations and the broken sync client It's not something easily used.

                                        That's not One Drive, it's One Drive for Business - sadly, it's very important delineate that difference whenever possible because of the extreme difference between those two products even though lay people will consider them mostly the same for no reason other than the name.

                                        The same could be said for Skype and Skype for Business (old Lync).

                                        I think that you just channeled me 🙂

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          The same could be said for Skype and Skype for Business (old Lync).

                                          Believe it or not on Mac and iOS... it's not old Lync, it's still Lync. They've not bothered to make it even branded as Skype for Business! So to a lot of users, there is no such thing as SfB and Lync is still the only product! Talk about bizarre branding choices.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates
                                            last edited by

                                            I apologize, I should have been more clear about which it was.

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