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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      Thanks for that explanation - much better than just adding my name to the sudoers file

      Yes, that really should not happen. Not realistically.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        but I'm still wondering about the virus/malware protection.

        Don't go around browsing websites from your server. Problem solved 🙂

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          With User Account Control in Windows, if my user has local admin rights, I still get prompted (normally) so even if some malware is trying to run, if I get an unexpected prompt I should be wary and most likely deny the access.

          Does something like that apply here? in a non gui, I'm not sure how it could. I'm probably over thinking it. In a CLI the only things that are running are those that I type.

          As for someone gaining access to my account, I guess I just need to make sure I have a good password.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            With User Account Control in Windows, if my user has local admin rights, I still get prompted (normally) so even if some malware is trying to run, if I get an unexpected prompt I should be wary and most likely deny the access.

            In Linux it will just fail, doesn't even prompt you.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              Does something like that apply here? in a non gui, I'm not sure how it could. I'm probably over thinking it. In a CLI the only things that are running are those that I type.

              This is what sudo does. It's just proactive instead of reactive.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                As for someone gaining access to my account, I guess I just need to make sure I have a good password.

                Or use a key. Or a key plus a password. Or add another for of two or even three factor authentication.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Make sure you are running fail2ban.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    awesome, thanks...

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller
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                      Had to be done

                      https://xkcd.com/149/

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        • Reid CooperR
                          Reid Cooper
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                          Ubuntu uses the sudo group instead of wheel, for some reason. Just a crazy desire to be non-standard.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            Where did wheel come from?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              Where did wheel come from?

                              https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/big_wheel

                              big wheel (plural big wheels)

                              (idiomatic) A person with a great deal of power or influence, especially a high-ranking person in an organization.
                              
                                  She's a big wheel at IBM.
                              
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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                LOL - when I think of Big Wheels I think of a three wheeled vehicle for kids...

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  Using @scottalanmiller 's definition, I think of Big Wig, lol. Must be where my southern heritage shows, lol.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    Why do so many instructions assume selinux is turned off? Don't you want it enabled to protect you?

                                    That and fail2ban?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Why do so many instructions assume selinux is turned off? Don't you want it enabled to protect you?

                                      That and fail2ban?

                                      Because they are lazy, as are most shops, andn so they just disable it.

                                      Although to be fair, turning it off for an install and enabling again when done is fine. It's running operationally without it that is bad.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Why do so many instructions assume selinux is turned off? Don't you want it enabled to protect you?

                                        That and fail2ban?

                                        Because they are lazy, as are most shops, andn so they just disable it.

                                        Although to be fair, turning it off for an install and enabling again when done is fine. It's running operationally without it that is bad.

                                        OK disable/re-enable fine - but I would think.. there would be some configuration requirements for whatever you installed? i.e. some instructions for said changes to selinux?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          OK disable/re-enable fine - but I would think.. there would be some configuration requirements for whatever you installed? i.e. some instructions for said changes to selinux?

                                          Not always. Traditionally MySQL could not install without SELinux being disabled, but once installed you turn it back on and it runs fine.

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                                          • StrongBadS
                                            StrongBad
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                                            Since only CentOS uses SELinux, I think that a lot of app developers question the value of investing too much time in doing it the "right way" when they can just disable it and move on. Other Linux use different technologies so the time needed to any one of them right can be quite a bit.

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