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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      I'm building an ELK stack on CentOS 7.

      The all you do is add your user to the "wheel" group. Wheel is the name of the administrators group. Has been in UNIX since the days of yore.

      Then in the /etc/sudoers file you just uncomment the field that allows WHEEL access to ROOT with NOPASSWD.

      Thanks for that explanation - much better than just adding my name to the sudoers file - but I'm still wondering about the virus/malware protection.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        Thanks for that explanation - much better than just adding my name to the sudoers file

        Yes, that really should not happen. Not realistically.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          but I'm still wondering about the virus/malware protection.

          Don't go around browsing websites from your server. Problem solved 🙂

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            With User Account Control in Windows, if my user has local admin rights, I still get prompted (normally) so even if some malware is trying to run, if I get an unexpected prompt I should be wary and most likely deny the access.

            Does something like that apply here? in a non gui, I'm not sure how it could. I'm probably over thinking it. In a CLI the only things that are running are those that I type.

            As for someone gaining access to my account, I guess I just need to make sure I have a good password.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              With User Account Control in Windows, if my user has local admin rights, I still get prompted (normally) so even if some malware is trying to run, if I get an unexpected prompt I should be wary and most likely deny the access.

              In Linux it will just fail, doesn't even prompt you.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                Does something like that apply here? in a non gui, I'm not sure how it could. I'm probably over thinking it. In a CLI the only things that are running are those that I type.

                This is what sudo does. It's just proactive instead of reactive.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  As for someone gaining access to my account, I guess I just need to make sure I have a good password.

                  Or use a key. Or a key plus a password. Or add another for of two or even three factor authentication.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Make sure you are running fail2ban.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      awesome, thanks...

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller
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                        Had to be done

                        https://xkcd.com/149/

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          • Reid CooperR
                            Reid Cooper
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                            Ubuntu uses the sudo group instead of wheel, for some reason. Just a crazy desire to be non-standard.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              Where did wheel come from?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                Where did wheel come from?

                                https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/big_wheel

                                big wheel (plural big wheels)

                                (idiomatic) A person with a great deal of power or influence, especially a high-ranking person in an organization.
                                
                                    She's a big wheel at IBM.
                                
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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  LOL - when I think of Big Wheels I think of a three wheeled vehicle for kids...

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre
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                                    Using @scottalanmiller 's definition, I think of Big Wig, lol. Must be where my southern heritage shows, lol.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      Why do so many instructions assume selinux is turned off? Don't you want it enabled to protect you?

                                      That and fail2ban?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Why do so many instructions assume selinux is turned off? Don't you want it enabled to protect you?

                                        That and fail2ban?

                                        Because they are lazy, as are most shops, andn so they just disable it.

                                        Although to be fair, turning it off for an install and enabling again when done is fine. It's running operationally without it that is bad.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          Why do so many instructions assume selinux is turned off? Don't you want it enabled to protect you?

                                          That and fail2ban?

                                          Because they are lazy, as are most shops, andn so they just disable it.

                                          Although to be fair, turning it off for an install and enabling again when done is fine. It's running operationally without it that is bad.

                                          OK disable/re-enable fine - but I would think.. there would be some configuration requirements for whatever you installed? i.e. some instructions for said changes to selinux?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            OK disable/re-enable fine - but I would think.. there would be some configuration requirements for whatever you installed? i.e. some instructions for said changes to selinux?

                                            Not always. Traditionally MySQL could not install without SELinux being disabled, but once installed you turn it back on and it runs fine.

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