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    Small Business Server 2003 to 2012 R2 Migration and Virtualized Domain Controller Questions

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @garak0410
      last edited by

      @garak0410 said:

      Getting a lot of these on the same file...is there a flag to skip this error or go to the next file? It will not proceed:

      Access is denied.
      Waiting 30 seconds... Retrying...

      It should skip after a few attempts. Do you have a lot of things open? Ideally you want everything turned off.

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      • garak0410G
        garak0410 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @garak0410 said:

        Getting a lot of these on the same file...is there a flag to skip this error or go to the next file? It will not proceed:

        Access is denied.
        Waiting 30 seconds... Retrying...

        It should skip after a few attempts. Do you have a lot of things open? Ideally you want everything turned off.

        Not at the moment...this is a sbscolsole.msc file and it tried at least 10 times before I canceled it...never moved off of it...

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @garak0410
          last edited by

          @garak0410 said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @garak0410 said:

          Getting a lot of these on the same file...is there a flag to skip this error or go to the next file? It will not proceed:

          Access is denied.
          Waiting 30 seconds... Retrying...

          It should skip after a few attempts. Do you have a lot of things open? Ideally you want everything turned off.

          Not at the moment...this is a sbscolsole.msc file and it tried at least 10 times before I canceled it...never moved off of it...

          This file and it's directory (called Admin) should not be open...I'd like to skip it but continue with copyall if I can.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Add /r:1 to make it only try once.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              Add /zb so that you can start and restart the process.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller can robocopy copy files you don't have rights to?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller can robocopy copy files you don't have rights to?

                  No, nothing can. Robocopy runs under your users. Presumably Robocopy would be being run by an admin for a system copy. If you aren't an admin, Robocopy is just another application, it can't circumvent system security. If it could, any tool could.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    I am an admin, but admins don't have rights to all files. There are reasons to have an admin's rights removed from a file. How would you migrate those files? take ownership?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by JaredBusch

                      admins (plural) should not have rights
                      the singular administration account should have access to everything and its use logged.

                      edit: seen your post. if that is already the case, then I would take ownership. but that could cause butt hurt or other ramifications if done without proper CYA

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        I am an admin, but admins don't have rights to all files. There are reasons to have an admin's rights removed from a file. How would you migrate those files? take ownership?

                        Admins do have rights, just not rights at all times. There is a difference between blocking and unblocking yourself and not having rights at all. The /b flag tells it to act like backup software. Obviously all backup software has to do the same thing - copy files to which it is not given explicit ownership and can only act as an administrator. So Robocopy just acts as backup software in that instance.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          admins (plural) should not have rights
                          the singular administration account should have access to everything and its use logged.

                          edit: seen your post. if that is already the case, then I would take ownership. but that could cause butt hurt or other ramifications if done without proper CYA

                          We use multiple admin accounts. Big believer that it should always be plural. Never want to share account access.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            I am an admin, but admins don't have rights to all files. There are reasons to have an admin's rights removed from a file. How would you migrate those files? take ownership?

                            Admins do have rights, just not rights at all times. There is a difference between blocking and unblocking yourself and not having rights at all. The /b flag tells it to act like backup software. Obviously all backup software has to do the same thing - copy files to which it is not given explicit ownership and can only act as an administrator. So Robocopy just acts as backup software in that instance.

                            Perfect, I was hoping you'd say that. I knew the backup process could get around this, glad to know Robocopy can use it.

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                            • garak0410G
                              garak0410
                              last edited by

                              This Robocopy command is working for me:

                              robocopy /mir /sec /copyall \oldserver\d$\ \newserver\e$\

                              I am running it now and it is working.

                              Question, if I run this again later, by default, will it only copy changed/new files from source?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @garak0410
                                last edited by

                                @garak0410 said:

                                This Robocopy command is working for me:

                                robocopy /mir /sec /copyall \oldserver\d$\ \newserver\e$\

                                I am running it now and it is working.

                                Question, if I run this again later, by default, will it only copy changed/new files from source?

                                No. You are thinking of Rsync 🙂

                                Remember I told you that you needed /zb that was for a reason. That's what allows for that.

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410
                                  last edited by

                                  I know a lot of you have other suggestions beyond login scripts but I am sticking with them for now...but running into a drive mapping problem...

                                  Question - Our main File Server Drive has a folder called ALL and then under that, various folders like Accounting, Purchasing, etc..

                                  On the current server, you can map directly to one of those folders rather than having to do \server\All\Accounting

                                  I am sure this is something I need to set at the root of the drive but cannot recall. Any suggestions?

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ
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                                    Did anyone mention DFS to you Garak?

                                    During your transition period you could use DFS Replication to keep shares synced up between the two servers.

                                    http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles-tutorials/windows-2003/Configuring-Using-DFS-Replication.html

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410 @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @IRJ said:

                                      Did anyone mention DFS to you Garak?

                                      During your transition period you could use DFS Replication to keep shares synced up between the two servers.

                                      http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles-tutorials/windows-2003/Configuring-Using-DFS-Replication.html

                                      Yes...it has been mentioned but my list has been too full to think of anything else...I'm a solo IT shop, so I am still handling workstation issues, office equipment issues, cell phones, software coding issues...juggling!

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                                      • garak0410G
                                        garak0410 @garak0410
                                        last edited by

                                        @garak0410 said:

                                        @IRJ said:

                                        Did anyone mention DFS to you Garak?

                                        During your transition period you could use DFS Replication to keep shares synced up between the two servers.

                                        http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles-tutorials/windows-2003/Configuring-Using-DFS-Replication.html

                                        Yes...it has been mentioned but my list has been too full to think of anything else...I'm a solo IT shop, so I am still handling workstation issues, office equipment issues, cell phones, software coding issues...juggling!

                                        That said...I am checking it out now...I may work late tonight...tomorrow is my official move to new servers evening...

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller

                                          Do you feel one of these ways is better than the other, any if so, why?

                                          e:\all\accounting = \servername\accounting
                                          e:\all\it = \servername\it
                                          e:\all\hr = \servername\hr
                                          etc

                                          Here is the other option I mentioned above
                                          e:\all = \servername\all
                                          and you connect your drive letters like this
                                          net use p: \servername\all\accounting
                                          net use i: \servername\all\it
                                          net use h: \servername\all\hr

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller

                                            Do you feel one of these ways is better than the other, any if so, why?

                                            e:\all\accounting = \servername\accounting
                                            e:\all\it = \servername\it
                                            e:\all\hr = \servername\hr
                                            etc

                                            Here is the other option I mentioned above
                                            e:\all = \servername\all
                                            and you connect your drive letters like this
                                            net use p: \servername\all\accounting
                                            net use i: \servername\all\it
                                            net use h: \servername\all\hr

                                            There are good times for each. The first set is based off of many shares and the later off of a single one. This really comes down to how you want to manage security. If you need granular share-level security you need many shares. But if you don't, and generally you don't, I would do the "one share" method to make things simpler.

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