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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
I still have a scholarship to the University of Rochester. It's unlikely that I will ever use it though by the time I paid for room & board it's not worth it (the scholarship requires on campus housing)
Room and board in Roch-cha-cha is like free. You have no idea how cheap life can be till you live in Rochester.
The University charges around $15k per year for room & board
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@thecreativeone91 said:
The University charges around $15k per year for room & board
Oh, that's not room and board. That's just another way to charge you for attending the university. They are still charging you to take classes there, they are just calling it room and board so that they can claim to give you a free ride. That's BS. That's like McDonald's claiming that French fries are a free gift, but require that you only get them in a combo meal.
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Actual cost of room and board in Rochester is far less than that. You can get an apartment there for $400 or less.
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Seriously you could live here for less than $2k a month that would include going out to eat a ton, eating really well and entertainment.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Seriously you could live here for less than $2k a month that would include going out to eat a ton, eating really well and entertainment.
Well, technically $15K a year is way under $2K a month
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Seriously you could live here for less than $2k a month that would include going out to eat a ton, eating really well and entertainment.
Well, technically $15K a year is way under $2K a month
Does that include meals though?
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To give you an idea my family of 3 lived with a mortgage and all that goes with that including internet etc. Used to live on about $4K a month. That is EVERYTHING we needed to live on.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Seriously you could live here for less than $2k a month that would include going out to eat a ton, eating really well and entertainment.
Well, technically $15K a year is way under $2K a month
It's about 10 months of college I assume so it would be about $1,500/month. But University of Rochester is a private college so they probably are making a decent amount of money on both their tuition and room & board.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Seriously you could live here for less than $2k a month that would include going out to eat a ton, eating really well and entertainment.
Wow. Here I can't even get an apartment under $1,000 a month. It was cheaper for me to actually get a house and mortgage than it was to rent even a small apartment. But here we have a law of no more than 2 people not relate can live in the same housing.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Seriously you could live here for less than $2k a month that would include going out to eat a ton, eating really well and entertainment.
Wow. Here I can't even get an apartment under $1,000 a month. It was cheaper for me to actually get a house and mortgage than it was to rent even a small apartment. But here we have a law of no more than 2 people not relate can live in the same housing.
That's the same where we live. Apartments are generally the same cost as a mortgage.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Seriously you could live here for less than $2k a month that would include going out to eat a ton, eating really well and entertainment.
Wow. Here I can't even get an apartment under $1,000 a month. It was cheaper for me to actually get a house and mortgage than it was to rent even a small apartment. But here we have a law of no more than 2 people not relate can live in the same housing.
WHAT? OMFG! damn lobbyists are running your town/state...
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@Dashrender No. It's to help stop prostitution/human trafficking.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Dashrender No. It's to help stop prostitution/human trafficking.
Huh? OH, just figured out what the quote and response was. Okay, that makes sense.
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Virginia suffers from a lot of stuff. That kills them. It makes it expensive to live for sure. In NY I used to have five roommates but we had a 3,500 sq ft house. It was amazing. Custom built for us.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Dashrender No. It's to help stop prostitution/human trafficking.
This is like saying you have to stop using cash to stop illegal sales.... it's just stupid. So many laws are written with 'good intentions' but the reality of the law is just damaging, and often has little to no effect on those you're trying to stop in the first place.
Under the assumption that prostitution is itself illegal, tell me how this law helps prevent prostitution? It really doesn't. what it does do is just provide one more charge to level against a person who they believe is doing something wrong. For example - they think you're a prostitute, but don't have enough evidence to prove it, so they hit you up with the no more than 2 non related BS law.
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Let me tell you, @thecreativeone91's descriptions of the things going on in Virginia are enough to ensure I never even remotely think of living there. Wasn't high on my list before, but it's on the blacklist now. Give me the Mexican desert any day.
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Yes it does. My sister in college at RIT (not living on campus but not too far off) was spending around $650 a month yes that includes meals and she did have roommates.
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@Dashrender This is also how the gun laws in Canada got so screwy. Good intentions, insane results.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Martin9700 said:
Did it help me get my first job in IT? Yes. I also wasn't 10's of thousands of dollars in debt so I'd say the program worked.
Personally I would defined "worked" only if it was able to get you into your first job sooner than an alternative approach. What if you had been teaching yourself and job hunting during the time you were in college.... could you have gotten a job sooner that way? People who go to college them get a job always say that the job helped them to get that first job, and sometimes surely that is true. But they rarely consider the cost of lost opportunity and wonder if they had not gone to college if that would have helped them to get a different first job sooner.
Well, kind of difficult to measure that one, tbh. But in those days getting into mainframe operations required you know some things about mainframes. It wasn't an industry that said, gee you can fix a PC (who had PC's?) I'll give you a shot. It was just a different time.
