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    O365: differences between direct purchase and via a partner

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      Carnival Boy
      last edited by Carnival Boy

      Looking into this a bit more, I see that what I'm talking about is purchasing O365 subscriptions via Open Licence. Is this the best way to purchase?

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      • coliverC
        coliver
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        I'm pretty sure you could purchase licenses the same way. They just get credited to the MSP. @Minion-Queen would probably know more about this though.

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom
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          When you buy via a partner, you often get fringe benefits, like migrations, etc you can get either free, cheap or bundled in. Also, MSPs get a spiff of the sale, and often get a recurring monthly portion of what you pay. It's a pretty good percentage too. I like buying via partners for a lot of things.

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          • ?
            A Former User
            last edited by A Former User

            I personally would buy everything direct.

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            • C
              Carnival Boy
              last edited by

              Why?

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              • Minion QueenM
                Minion Queen Banned
                last edited by

                @Carnival-Boy

                There are a couple of ways to do things. When you purchase through an MSP you can go month to month. You can still pay direct through Microsoft and they can do monthly billing that can be paid via a check run and not credit card.

                We do not accept payments from our customers for Office365. This limits the customers interaction with their admin panel etc. The customer should always have complete control of their licensing.

                That also means the we do not make a profit on your individual licenses, yes we do make margins for selling them to you but that is paid to us by Microsoft not by you in anyway.

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                  Carnival Boy @Minion Queen
                  last edited by

                  @Minion-Queen said:

                  We do not accept payments from our customers for Office365. This limits the customers interaction with their admin panel etc. The customer should always have complete control of their licensing.

                  Yikes. I must have complete control. In what way would I be limited?

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by

                    You also can often get better pricing via partners.

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                    • Minion QueenM
                      Minion Queen Banned @Carnival Boy
                      last edited by

                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                      @Minion-Queen said:

                      We do not accept payments from our customers for Office365. This limits the customers interaction with their admin panel etc. The customer should always have complete control of their licensing.

                      Yikes. I must have complete control. In what way would I be limited?

                      Nothing limiting at all by going this route. If you need help in anyway that is what we are here for. As a MS Partner we have dedicated account and technical account managers to reach out to if we aren't able to answer your questions. We have direct numbers and emails to contact them not an 800 number.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @Minion Queen
                        last edited by

                        @Minion-Queen said:

                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                        @Minion-Queen said:

                        We do not accept payments from our customers for Office365. This limits the customers interaction with their admin panel etc. The customer should always have complete control of their licensing.

                        Yikes. I must have complete control. In what way would I be limited?

                        Nothing limiting at all by going this route. If you need help in anyway that is what we are here for. As a MS Partner we have dedicated account and technical account managers to reach out to if we aren't able to answer your questions. We have direct numbers and emails to contact them not an 800 number.

                        And there is that.

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                          Carnival Boy
                          last edited by Carnival Boy

                          So there aren't any downsides with purchasing with an open licence via a reseller/MSP?

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver
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                            Maybe a bit off topic, but what is the process to moving to a VAR/MSP if you already have a O365 domain setup?

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                            • Minion QueenM
                              Minion Queen Banned
                              last edited by

                              It is as simple as putting in our partner number and name.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said:

                                Maybe a bit off topic, but what is the process to moving to a VAR/MSP if you already have a O365 domain setup?

                                You'd have to contact them then you can change the partner of record in office 365.

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                                • Minion QueenM
                                  Minion Queen Banned
                                  last edited by

                                  Nope you don't have to contact them it can all be done via the control panel. We have done this many times,as unfortunately there are lots of shady MSP's out there and we have had to rescue migrations more than once.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                                    I personally would buy everything direct.

                                    I would never do that. There are no upsides. Going through an MSP can add value, going direct cannot. If you go direct you voluntarily take the lowest level of service.

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      I personally would buy everything direct.

                                      I would never do that. There are no upsides. Going through an MSP can add value, going direct cannot. If you go direct you voluntarily take the lowest level of service.

                                      From my experience, I agree.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                                        last edited by

                                        @thanksajdotcom said:

                                        You also can often get better pricing via partners.

                                        Pricing is always the same, it can't change.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                                          last edited by

                                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                                          So there aren't any downsides with purchasing with an open licence via a reseller/MSP?

                                          Can't get the upgraded MS service or the partner services if you go direct. Going direct guarantees the lowest common denominator of services.

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                                            A Former User @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by A Former User

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @thanksajdotcom said:

                                            You also can often get better pricing via partners.

                                            Pricing is always the same, it can't change.

                                            That's not really true. From partner it's the same. Microsoft does give discounts direct though. This is one of the reason I have always bought direct for the special pricing.

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