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    O365: differences between direct purchase and via a partner

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      Carnival Boy
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      Why?

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen Banned
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        @Carnival-Boy

        There are a couple of ways to do things. When you purchase through an MSP you can go month to month. You can still pay direct through Microsoft and they can do monthly billing that can be paid via a check run and not credit card.

        We do not accept payments from our customers for Office365. This limits the customers interaction with their admin panel etc. The customer should always have complete control of their licensing.

        That also means the we do not make a profit on your individual licenses, yes we do make margins for selling them to you but that is paid to us by Microsoft not by you in anyway.

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          Carnival Boy @Minion Queen
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          @Minion-Queen said:

          We do not accept payments from our customers for Office365. This limits the customers interaction with their admin panel etc. The customer should always have complete control of their licensing.

          Yikes. I must have complete control. In what way would I be limited?

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom
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            You also can often get better pricing via partners.

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            • Minion QueenM
              Minion Queen Banned @Carnival Boy
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              @Carnival-Boy said:

              @Minion-Queen said:

              We do not accept payments from our customers for Office365. This limits the customers interaction with their admin panel etc. The customer should always have complete control of their licensing.

              Yikes. I must have complete control. In what way would I be limited?

              Nothing limiting at all by going this route. If you need help in anyway that is what we are here for. As a MS Partner we have dedicated account and technical account managers to reach out to if we aren't able to answer your questions. We have direct numbers and emails to contact them not an 800 number.

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              • thanksajdotcomT
                thanksajdotcom @Minion Queen
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                @Minion-Queen said:

                @Carnival-Boy said:

                @Minion-Queen said:

                We do not accept payments from our customers for Office365. This limits the customers interaction with their admin panel etc. The customer should always have complete control of their licensing.

                Yikes. I must have complete control. In what way would I be limited?

                Nothing limiting at all by going this route. If you need help in anyway that is what we are here for. As a MS Partner we have dedicated account and technical account managers to reach out to if we aren't able to answer your questions. We have direct numbers and emails to contact them not an 800 number.

                And there is that.

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                  Carnival Boy
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                  So there aren't any downsides with purchasing with an open licence via a reseller/MSP?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
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                    Maybe a bit off topic, but what is the process to moving to a VAR/MSP if you already have a O365 domain setup?

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                    • Minion QueenM
                      Minion Queen Banned
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                      It is as simple as putting in our partner number and name.

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                        A Former User @coliver
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                        @coliver said:

                        Maybe a bit off topic, but what is the process to moving to a VAR/MSP if you already have a O365 domain setup?

                        You'd have to contact them then you can change the partner of record in office 365.

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                        • Minion QueenM
                          Minion Queen Banned
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                          Nope you don't have to contact them it can all be done via the control panel. We have done this many times,as unfortunately there are lots of shady MSP's out there and we have had to rescue migrations more than once.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            I personally would buy everything direct.

                            I would never do that. There are no upsides. Going through an MSP can add value, going direct cannot. If you go direct you voluntarily take the lowest level of service.

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                            • thanksajdotcomT
                              thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              I personally would buy everything direct.

                              I would never do that. There are no upsides. Going through an MSP can add value, going direct cannot. If you go direct you voluntarily take the lowest level of service.

                              From my experience, I agree.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                @thanksajdotcom said:

                                You also can often get better pricing via partners.

                                Pricing is always the same, it can't change.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                                  So there aren't any downsides with purchasing with an open licence via a reseller/MSP?

                                  Can't get the upgraded MS service or the partner services if you go direct. Going direct guarantees the lowest common denominator of services.

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                                    A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                                    You also can often get better pricing via partners.

                                    Pricing is always the same, it can't change.

                                    That's not really true. From partner it's the same. Microsoft does give discounts direct though. This is one of the reason I have always bought direct for the special pricing.

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      You also can often get better pricing via partners.

                                      Pricing is always the same, it can't change.

                                      That's not really true. From reseller it's the same. Microsoft does give discounts direct though. This is one of the reason I have always bought direct for the special pricing.

                                      Resellers often have similar but different promotions. It varies where the best price lies, but in general, a good reseller will beat the direct price nine times out of ten.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                                        What I know so far, and correct me if I'm wrong on anything here:

                                        • We can't select a monthly subs, only annual. This isn't really a problem.
                                        • Billing is from our MSP. This is a cool feature, as Microsoft will currently only bill us via credit card as we don't spend enough with them and there is a lot of overhead and admin involved in managing this.

                                        If some MSP is trying to bill directly I think they are running a scam. Microsoft does not allow this in any market we have worked in.

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                                          Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Pricing is always the same, it can't change.

                                          I've been quoted a different price by my reseller to the price listed on Microsoft's website. Not a lot different, but different.

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @Carnival Boy
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                                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Pricing is always the same, it can't change.

                                            I've been quoted a different price by my reseller to the price listed on Microsoft's website. Not a lot different, but different.

                                            It also depends on what it is. Certain types of items are cheaper some places direct and other items, or services, are cheaper through resellers.

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