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    • PSX_DefectorP
      PSX_Defector @Lakshmana
      last edited by

      @Lakshmana said:

      Hi All,
      I am Lakshmana Shiva from India interested in IT Security but am unsure of What I want to pursue or how to switch from what I am doing currently into a security role.Can anyone suggest me ?

      Yeah, don't.

      I had a long and involved, probably racist, response, but it boils down to this. If you have to ask, you will never know. The hubris of thinking you have been a desktop grunt for 6 months and think that qualifies you to jump into security says how little you actually have for experience.

      Go work, get experience, and maybe in a few years, re-approach this.

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      • LakshmanaL
        Lakshmana @PSX_Defector
        last edited by

        @PSX_Defector said:

        Go work, get ex

        yes I know sir.My long term goal is Security side.So I am just getting information about that field thats it

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @PSX_Defector
          last edited by

          @PSX_Defector Dude.... Lucky I'm not in the same room as you right now.

          @Lakshmana For security you have a lot of reading / learning to do. There are a ton of courses online to get you rolling, others will have some better resources for you than I can suggest right at the moment. I wish you all the best!

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          • PSX_DefectorP
            PSX_Defector @MattSpeller
            last edited by Addie

            @MattSpeller said:

            @PSX_Defector Dude.... Lucky I'm not in the same room as you right now.

            Let's just say that I do not appreciate the IT folks of a certain subcontinent at this moment. And if you knew what I've had to deal with their pure unadulterated stupidity, unprofessionalism, and plain jane don't give a [moderated] attitude, you would be in the same boat too.

            As they say, dey took our jerbs! Literally in this case.

            [moderator message: Please keep it professional]

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @PSX_Defector
              last edited by

              @PSX_Defector said:

              Let's just say that I do not appreciate the IT folks of a certain subcontinent at this moment. And if you knew what I've had to deal with their pure unadulterated stupidity, unprofessionalism, and plain jane don't give a shit attitude, you would be in the same boat too.

              As they say, dey took our jerbs! Literally in this case.

              Quit this while you're behind man. At the very minimum it does not belong in this thread.

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              • PSX_DefectorP
                PSX_Defector @MattSpeller
                last edited by Addie

                @MattSpeller said:

                @PSX_Defector said:

                Let's just say that I do not appreciate the IT folks of a certain subcontinent at this moment. And if you knew what I've had to deal with their pure unadulterated stupidity, unprofessionalism, and plain jane don't give a shit attitude, you would be in the same boat too.

                As they say, dey took our jerbs! Literally in this case.

                Quit this while you're behind man. At the very minimum it does not belong in this thread.

                [full reply moderated out due to community guideline violation]

                [moderator message: Please keep it professional personal opinions on this type of thing are not in line with the OP]

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                • AmbarishrhA
                  Ambarishrh @PSX_Defector
                  last edited by

                  @PSX_Defector Just because you had some bad experience with one or two guys, please do not consider everyone that way. Those kinds of people are in every country. I've seen kids who excel in IT just out of pure interest in learning and no experience. If @Lakshmana wants to know some details on whatever he wants to pursue, we just need to share the info.

                  Honestly I could see the same unprofessionalism in your comments, we are all IT Pros and are here to share our knowledge, learn from
                  each one of them.

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                  • LakshmanaL
                    Lakshmana @Ambarishrh
                    last edited by

                    @Ambarishrh Thanks for your valuable comment Sir

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      And comments like that show a level of unprofessionalism that justifies work going elsewhere. If Americans can't act professionally, even if we can do the work technically, that just makes it a no brainer to send jobs elsewhere.

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                      • AddieA
                        Addie
                        last edited by

                        Please turn your reply's back to answering the OP. Thank you.

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                        • Minion QueenM
                          Minion Queen Banned
                          last edited by

                          @Lakshmana

                          Since you are is still pretty new in IT I would suggest starting your study (you have gotten many suggestions here) and also combining it with coming to a community such as this with questions.

                          Also building out your own home lab to testing things and get your hands on experience is really important. Or finding a way to intern in the area you are looking to learn.

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                          • AmbarishrhA
                            Ambarishrh
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller So true!
                            @Lakshmana your'e welcome. Please feel free to ask anything in IT in the forum and I am sure a lot of people will come forward to help you without any hesitation. Wish you all success.

                            Now regarding your question, check http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/how-to-start-your-career-as-a-security-pro/ they have some pointers on where to start and mentions almost the same thing which is discussed here, CompTIA certifications

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                            • LakshmanaL
                              Lakshmana @Minion Queen
                              last edited by

                              @Minion-Queen Madam Thanks for your suggestion I can't make home lab I am interested to attend intern to improve my knowledge

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                              • LakshmanaL
                                Lakshmana @Ambarishrh
                                last edited by

                                @Ambarishrh Thanks for your support sir

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  What is keeping you from having a home lab? Space? Cost?

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                                    A Former User @Ambarishrh
                                    last edited by

                                    @Ambarishrh said:

                                    Now regarding your question, check http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/how-to-start-your-career-as-a-security-pro/ they have some pointers on where to start and mentions almost the same thing which is discussed here, CompTIA certifications

                                    Good article, though I'm wondering where they are seeing this. I haven't. " Entry-level security jobs are becoming more and more common so you won't necessarily have to pay your dues through junior network admin or junior helpdesk positions."

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                                      A Former User @Lakshmana
                                      last edited by

                                      @Lakshmana said:

                                      @Minion-Queen Madam Thanks for your suggestion I can't make home lab I am interested to attend intern to improve my knowledge

                                      You can do VM's for almost all of it.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        @Ambarishrh said:

                                        Now regarding your question, check http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/how-to-start-your-career-as-a-security-pro/ they have some pointers on where to start and mentions almost the same thing which is discussed here, CompTIA certifications

                                        Good article, though I'm wondering where they are seeing this. I haven't. " Entry-level security jobs are becoming more and more common so you won't necessarily have to pay your dues through junior network admin or junior helpdesk positions."

                                        Where are people seeing entry level security jobs? Does anyone have a good "picture" of what the job role, pay, responsibilities and such typically are? I've only seen a few places with security roles and they were always very senior and expected a lot of technical background.

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                                        • PSX_DefectorP
                                          PSX_Defector @Ambarishrh
                                          last edited by

                                          @Ambarishrh said:

                                          @PSX_Defector Just because you had some bad experience with one or two guys, please do not consider everyone that way.

                                          Think over 500. Just right now. Thousands in the past.

                                          There are folks who DO know what they are doing. OP might be in that boat. But facts are facts, he's not got enough experience to even contemplate a security career path at this point. Everyone needs experience to even understand the fundamentals of how to secure networks. 6 months working as a desktop goon does not bring that.

                                          I'm not anything if not blunt and honest. And if folks don't like that, then screw 'em.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            You are correct, he is too junior to be looking at security paths today. But he can consider it as a goal for the future and pursue short term (2-3 year) goals that would put him on a path for a security future. Paths like network administration and system administration tend to be best for getting into security and security related fields where others, like desktop support and database administration do not.

                                            So focusing on something like systems administration, which is a common job role outsourced to where he is, could make a lot of sense. Continuing to gain experience in desktop support while studying to work on Linux, for example, could move him in the short term to a junior Linux admin role in, say, 18 months and then he could begin to look at adding security to his portfolio so that he could move in that direction.

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