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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in WSUS Location:

      @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Location:

      @dafyre said in WSUS Location:

      Splitting to split failure domains is terrible thinking. That doubles the chances of AN outage, and they don't solve anything.

      Why is it terrible thinking? If I have two failure domains, half keeps working and the other half is down. Yes, there's an outage, but we're not completely dead in the water.

      That's not at all correct. If DHCP fails and your IP fails, then AD fails TOO. If AD fails and DHCP does not, you still have a partial outage.

      Your system makes ANY failure twice as likely. Half of the time it is just as bad as having them combined. The other half of the time isn't AS bad, but not good.

      So it's that easy. Your dead in the water time is equal either way, because you have a complete DHCP dependency apparently. The other half of the time, even though you are not completely dead, is 100% unnecessary risk caused solely by having designed the system to fail unnecessarily often (by 50%.)

      By merging the services you can dramatically reduce your overall risk with literally zero downsides.

      I'm really trying to understand the math here considering - two AD servers, two DHCP servers - and crazily, we'll assume one DNS server, because he never stated that he has two DNS servers.

      Assuming the DNS is either with the AD or with the DHCP. As DNS is an AD dependency, you have to keep them together for safety. However DHCP is also an AD dependency that you have to keep together for safety. So who knows.

      Youtube Video

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        ElecEng @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller SAM thanks for the video that does clarify it and makes it easy to understand.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @ElecEng
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          @eleceng said in WSUS Location:

          @scottalanmiller SAM thanks for the video that does clarify it and makes it easy to understand.

          No problem 🙂

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          • dave247D
            dave247 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Location:

            @dashrender said in WSUS Location:

            @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Location:

            @dafyre said in WSUS Location:

            Splitting to split failure domains is terrible thinking. That doubles the chances of AN outage, and they don't solve anything.

            Why is it terrible thinking? If I have two failure domains, half keeps working and the other half is down. Yes, there's an outage, but we're not completely dead in the water.

            That's not at all correct. If DHCP fails and your IP fails, then AD fails TOO. If AD fails and DHCP does not, you still have a partial outage.

            Your system makes ANY failure twice as likely. Half of the time it is just as bad as having them combined. The other half of the time isn't AS bad, but not good.

            So it's that easy. Your dead in the water time is equal either way, because you have a complete DHCP dependency apparently. The other half of the time, even though you are not completely dead, is 100% unnecessary risk caused solely by having designed the system to fail unnecessarily often (by 50%.)

            By merging the services you can dramatically reduce your overall risk with literally zero downsides.

            I'm really trying to understand the math here considering - two AD servers, two DHCP servers - and crazily, we'll assume one DNS server, because he never stated that he has two DNS servers.

            Assuming the DNS is either with the AD or with the DHCP. As DNS is an AD dependency, you have to keep them together for safety. However DHCP is also an AD dependency that you have to keep together for safety. So who knows.

            Youtube Video

            Scott Allan Miller - excellent video and thanks for you awesome input as always. I made it about 5 minutes before I got lost in your beard though xD

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dave247
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              @dave247 a common enough problem.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Location:

                @dave247 a common enough problem.

                As is open mouth video images.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch But it makes him look so.... Happy! lol.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in WSUS Location:

                    @jaredbusch But it makes him look so.... Happy! lol.

                    He does look Jolly, doesn't he?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @dashrender said in WSUS Location:

                      @dafyre said in WSUS Location:

                      @jaredbusch But it makes him look so.... Happy! lol.

                      He does look Jolly, doesn't he?

                      I AM jolly!

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Location:

                        @dashrender said in WSUS Location:

                        @dafyre said in WSUS Location:

                        @jaredbusch But it makes him look so.... Happy! lol.

                        He does look Jolly, doesn't he?

                        I AM jolly!

                        yeah - frankly I'm envious...

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce
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                          Why WSUS and not Windows Update for Business? It's so much better.

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