Follow-Up After Interview
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What is a decent amount of time for a candidate to follow up with a company they had an onsite interview with?
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@Fredtx said in Follow-Up After Interview:
What is a decent amount of time for a candidate to follow up with a company they had an onsite interview with?
I would say never. Why does the candidate need to follow up with the company?
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yeah - if they like you -they'll call you - if they don't call you, then they probably want someone else.
You calling them looks desperate, and puts them in a position of power.
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Even if they give you a feel good explanation, you didnt get the job. So who cares?
Its nothing personal, its just business.
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I'd concur, if I left an interview and was told to followup in a few days about the position, I'd just not call back. Clearly they didn't want me for the position if the onus to followup was on me as the candidate.
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Yea, that makes sense. I wasn't sure if it would give an impression that I wasn't interested if I didn't follow up.
Also, after I interviewed with operations managers/etc I immediately interviewed with the HR manager. HR did tell me she's sure that I'm actively applying for other companies and to have patience as it's a long process for their hiring. I'm still going to actively apply at other places though. If I've already been eliminated I would really like to know if there was anything wrong I did so it can help me with future interviews.
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@Fredtx You can certainly followup and ask if you're still being considered, but honestly if jobs aren't super difficult to find in your area, I'd just move on.
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@Fredtx said in Follow-Up After Interview:
Yea, that makes sense. I wasn't sure if it would give an impression that I wasn't interested if I didn't follow up.
Also, after I interviewed with operations managers/etc I immediately interviewed with the HR manager. HR did tell me she's sure that I'm actively applying for other companies and to have patience as it's a long process for their hiring. I'm still going to actively apply at other places though. If I've already been eliminated I would really like to know if there was anything wrong I did so it can help me with future interviews.
Assume the job isnt in the bag until offer is in hand. I have been lead on before, and learned my lesson. Like you said, keep applying and keep playing your cards. Having more than one offer in hand is very good for you of course
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@DustinB3403 said in Follow-Up After Interview:
@Fredtx You can certainly followup and ask if you're still being considered, but honestly if jobs aren't super difficult to find in your area, I'd just move on.
I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas area and there seems to be a lot of companies hiring right now. It just gets a little frustrating when you invest so much time (phone interview, video conference, onsite interview). If I don't get the position it definitely did help me with getting better at this stuff.
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@IRJ said in Follow-Up After Interview:
@Fredtx said in Follow-Up After Interview:
Yea, that makes sense. I wasn't sure if it would give an impression that I wasn't interested if I didn't follow up.
Also, after I interviewed with operations managers/etc I immediately interviewed with the HR manager. HR did tell me she's sure that I'm actively applying for other companies and to have patience as it's a long process for their hiring. I'm still going to actively apply at other places though. If I've already been eliminated I would really like to know if there was anything wrong I did so it can help me with future interviews.
Assume the job isnt in the bag until offer is in hand. I have been lead on before, and learned my lesson. Like you said, keep applying and keep playing your cards. Having more than one offer in hand is very good for you of course
so just keep going.Yes very true. I've been job searching mostly in Linkedin and some on Indeed.
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@Fredtx said in Follow-Up After Interview:
Yea, that makes sense. I wasn't sure if it would give an impression that I wasn't interested if I didn't follow up.
Also, after I interviewed with operations managers/etc I immediately interviewed with the HR manager. HR did tell me she's sure that I'm actively applying for other companies and to have patience as it's a long process for their hiring. I'm still going to actively apply at other places though. If I've already been eliminated I would really like to know if there was anything wrong I did so it can help me with future interviews.
Some companies need ages to respond. One example is a well known European aviation company: Can take them three or four months to get back to you. There is no "one-rule-for-all"-thing here. Large enterprises tend to react slower, but the same can be true for a 50 ppl shop. I've also seen it the other way around where a very large company sent me a contract after a few days.
Be a little more patient and call them in one or two weeks.
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@thwr This is indeed a European company with branches in U.S, Canada, and Mexico. I will still continue to seek other opportunities as they come along with keeping my patience.
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@Fredtx said in Follow-Up After Interview:
Yea, that makes sense. I wasn't sure if it would give an impression that I wasn't interested if I didn't follow up.
Also, after I interviewed with operations managers/etc I immediately interviewed with the HR manager. HR did tell me she's sure that I'm actively applying for other companies and to have patience as it's a long process for their hiring. I'm still going to actively apply at other places though. If I've already been eliminated I would really like to know if there was anything wrong I did so it can help me with future interviews.
You should always remember the names of the people in an interview and e-mail them a thank you after the meeting imo. It's not a check-in but it acknowledges that you remember their names and puts a personal touch to it. Not required, but it's nice.
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@IRJ said in Follow-Up After Interview:
@Fredtx said in Follow-Up After Interview:
What is a decent amount of time for a candidate to follow up with a company they had an onsite interview with?
I would say never. Why does the candidate need to follow up with the company?
Same here, I'm not sure of a purpose for this.
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@Dashrender said in Follow-Up After Interview:
yeah - if they like you -they'll call you - if they don't call you, then they probably want someone else.
You calling them looks desperate, and puts them in a position of power.
Right, there is no situation where you'd call them and they'd be like "we wanted to hire you, but were just waiting for you to ask us, again."
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@Fredtx said in Follow-Up After Interview:
Yea, that makes sense. I wasn't sure if it would give an impression that I wasn't interested if I didn't follow up.
Definitely not. We do have people follow up with us from time to time, but normally months later to ask if there was a potential at a different opening. That's a little different if it is a company small enough that you might have missed one opportunity but not failed the interview.
But when we do that, we also tell people that they passed and to keep in touch for future openings because we don't want them getting the wrong impression.
Our last three hires were all that way, in fact. They all passed initial interview but we didn't have enough slots for them all. So we hired them in nearly random order because they were all good enough (we tried to be strategic based on skill set.)
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@Fredtx said in Follow-Up After Interview:
HR did tell me she's sure that I'm actively applying for other companies and to have patience as it's a long process for their hiring.
That right there, is how companies fail the reverse interview. Two things to remember....
- This is BS because it is the company's CHOICE to have the process take a long time. No outside force makes them bad at this. This is HR telling you now that good hiring practices aren't important to this company. They are telling you to run away now, it's not a good place to work in a politically correct way.
- Interviews go two ways and there is no better insight into the company than their interview process, it's the one thing about their company that they can't fake. Nothing that they show or claim matters as much as the process by which they interview. So what you just learned about this company is that either they aren't interested in you, or they aren't interested in good hiring (or both.)
Remember, healthy companies generally hire on the spot or same day. If we are doing interviews and find someone we want, we never let them go to bed wondering if they are getting an offer. Never.
Longest "good job" I ever had to wait on was like three hours. They made the offer after I had left, but before I got home.
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@Fredtx said in Follow-Up After Interview:
@DustinB3403 said in Follow-Up After Interview:
@Fredtx You can certainly followup and ask if you're still being considered, but honestly if jobs aren't super difficult to find in your area, I'd just move on.
I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas area and there seems to be a lot of companies hiring right now. It just gets a little frustrating when you invest so much time (phone interview, video conference, onsite interview). If I don't get the position it definitely did help me with getting better at this stuff.
That's why you do what you can to minimize the investment. To some degree you can't, but companies want you to feel vested in the position and will do this to make you willing to wait longer for an offer, and to accept less when you get it. You have to mentally battle this because it is designed to wear you down.
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@thwr said in Follow-Up After Interview:
Large enterprises tend to react slower
I found the opposite. Big ones are the most likely to be "on the spot" and "even if there is no specific opening" because they have the resources to do so and can't let a good person walk out the door. They know that the cost of interviewing is staggering and that missing a good candidate because you wanted, even an hour, is a killer to profits.
Crappy companies of any size will be bad at this. Being crappy makes them bad at it, doing it makes them crappy. It's a cycle.
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@thwr said in Follow-Up After Interview:
One example is a well known European aviation company: Can take them three or four months to get back to you.
Perfect example. by definition, no one but desperate, otherwise unemployable people work there. There really aren't any aviation companies of any size out there that are known as good places to work. Europe is like the US, these companies are broadly corrupt and often a pretty serious embarrassment to work at. They way poorly, treat workers terribly, are shameful to say you get paid by, and generally only exist because they bribe government officials. They are the saddest, most depressing, most unprofessional places to have to work. Boeing, Lockheed, Airbus, etc. come to mind as big examples of places that are huge, but not because they are good companies, good places to work, and you'd be ashamed if they were on your resume. I worked at Lockheed for one week and feel dirty having stayed that long, my professional integrity won't let me go back. I'd have to consider myself a traitor to my country to work there, and I mean that. Not to mention a traitor to my profession.
Like anything, if you want "any" job, then being desperate opens a few extra door. But if you want a good job, being desperate makes it way harder to get hired.
It's not that crappy companies can't hire, it's that they can't get any number of good people. So you have to work with larger pools and wildly non-competitive people.
