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    • IRJI
      IRJ @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Resume:

      @WrCombs said in Resume:

      What do you put in your cover letter when turning in Resumes?

      I would never do a cover letter. Tells the hiring manager that you are desperate and don't understand the statistics of hiring. It's too much time investment on a single submission.

      There are jobs that require cover letters, you don't want them. You are already working at one of them.

      I did alot of interviewing for fun a few years ago. I would get interviews lined up and intentionally try to bomb them. What I found out is that almost in every single case, the more confident/cocky I was , the more desirable I was to the employer. Most people think it's the opposite, that you should be humble and not oversell yourself in an interview.

      Now here's the big thing... Can you backup the sales job you made about yourself? Do you know the technologies?

      Simple things like spinning up tech in your lab before an interview will help you tremendously. If there is an area of tech that I know they are going to ask me about (The job description is the cheat sheet) . I will go gain knowledge in that area before the interview. I will not only answer their basic questions, but provide additional info like best practices around the tech.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @IRJ
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        @IRJ that would be comparable to me to writing a cover letter.

        Use your lab for the things you want to learn, not the things you might need later for some position. The employer can send you to training if it's critical that you learn something.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IRJ
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          @IRJ said in Resume:

          I did alot of interviewing for fun a few years ago. I would get interviews lined up and intentionally try to bomb them. What I found out is that almost in every single case, the more confident/cocky I was , the more desirable I was to the employer. Most people think it's the opposite, that you should be humble and not oversell yourself in an interview.

          Most people do job interviews when they are actively wanting to escape a bad situation, or have lost their job and now are in some level of panic. It makes it hard to be confident. If you start interviewing when you don't actually need the job, your chances of getting it go up easily 1,000%, for real. Someone who isn't confident sends the signal that they themselves don't believe that they can do the job and the employer can tell. When you are confident, it makes them feel like you at least think that you could actually do it.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Resume:

            @IRJ that would be comparable to me to writing a cover letter.

            Use your lab for the things you want to learn, not the things you might need later for some position. The employer can send you to training if it's critical that you learn something.

            https://media.giphy.com/media/XftPgKUqZdxAfbZ6VO/giphy.gif

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in Resume:

              @IRJ that would be comparable to me to writing a cover letter.

              Use your lab for the things you want to learn, not the things you might need later for some position. The employer can send you to training if it's critical that you learn something.

              You dont have to put in a ton of effort. You can just watch a few youtube videos and read a couple articles about it. If you have been in IT long enough, its likely you have already worked with a competing product anyway. So the amount of effort you have to put in is very minimal, and the potential payoff is HUGE.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
                last edited by

                @IRJ said in Resume:

                Simple things like spinning up tech in your lab before an interview will help you tremendously. If there is an area of tech that I know they are going to ask me about (The job description is the cheat sheet) . I will go gain knowledge in that area before the interview. I will not only answer their basic questions, but provide additional info like best practices around the tech.

                I have done this a lot, too. Learn the tech right before an interview. It's fresh and current in your mind and even if you don't get the job, you learned something new!

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Resume:

                  @IRJ said in Resume:

                  Simple things like spinning up tech in your lab before an interview will help you tremendously. If there is an area of tech that I know they are going to ask me about (The job description is the cheat sheet) . I will go gain knowledge in that area before the interview. I will not only answer their basic questions, but provide additional info like best practices around the tech.

                  I have done this a lot, too. Learn the tech right before an interview. It's fresh and current in your mind and even if you don't get the job, you learned something new!

                  It's very impressive to interviewers. I also I am not afraid to say things like I spun it up in a lab if I have not used in production. Then I will go into detail about how it is deployed so they know I actually have used it. I will say honestly I have more experience with the competitor, but I know both solutions fairly well.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @IRJ
                    last edited by

                    @IRJ said in Resume:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Resume:

                    @IRJ said in Resume:

                    Simple things like spinning up tech in your lab before an interview will help you tremendously. If there is an area of tech that I know they are going to ask me about (The job description is the cheat sheet) . I will go gain knowledge in that area before the interview. I will not only answer their basic questions, but provide additional info like best practices around the tech.

                    I have done this a lot, too. Learn the tech right before an interview. It's fresh and current in your mind and even if you don't get the job, you learned something new!

                    It's very impressive to interviewers. I also I am not afraid to say things like I spun it up in a lab if I have not used in production. Then I will go into detail about how it is deployed so they know I actually have used it. I will say honestly I have more experience with the competitor, but I know both solutions fairly well.

                    I might leave out the yesterday or this morning part about the lab, however 🙂

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Resume:

                      @IRJ said in Resume:

                      I did alot of interviewing for fun a few years ago. I would get interviews lined up and intentionally try to bomb them. What I found out is that almost in every single case, the more confident/cocky I was , the more desirable I was to the employer. Most people think it's the opposite, that you should be humble and not oversell yourself in an interview.

                      Most people do job interviews when they are actively wanting to escape a bad situation, or have lost their job and now are in some level of panic. It makes it hard to be confident. If you start interviewing when you don't actually need the job, your chances of getting it go up easily 1,000%, for real. Someone who isn't confident sends the signal that they themselves don't believe that they can do the job and the employer can tell. When you are confident, it makes them feel like you at least think that you could actually do it.

                      Everyone needs to interview a few times a year IMO. It's always such a good exercise.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @IRJ said in Resume:

                        I also I am not afraid to say things like I spun it up in a lab if I have not used in production.

                        Yeah, take that + confidence and you have this amazing story to tell.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Resume:

                          @IRJ said in Resume:

                          I also I am not afraid to say things like I spun it up in a lab if I have not used in production.

                          Yeah, take that + confidence and you have this amazing story to tell.

                          There are quite a few brilliant people who cannot write a resume or nail an interview and they are stuck making 1/3 or even less than what they deserve because they dont have these soft skills.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Resume:

                            You should also be staring at your resume all of the time. Being caught with a typo or formatting issue or something shouldn't happen. Your resume is one of the most important things in your life, you need to be treating it like it is super important. Typos suggest that you aren't paying attention to it and employers pick up on that instantly.

                            I'm so guilty of not keeping a resume. I have a slapped together resume for formality that I have only barely tweaked over the years.

                            But every position I have taken since 1997 has been because I knew someone, except for when I lost my job in 2007. Not having a quality resume hurt me then.

                            It would hurt me now too except I would do the same here. post it up and rip it apart with all of you.

                            Not to mention, I would likely have a few offers from a couple of places as soon as word went out I was looking.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Youtube Video

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller we don't need AD!! 😛

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in Resume:

                                  @scottalanmiller we don't need AD!! 😛

                                  How did you even get to that part already? lol

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller it was only like a minute in.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said in Resume:

                                      @scottalanmiller it was only like a minute in.

                                      Oh, I thought it was nearly at the end.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Resume:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Resume:

                                        @scottalanmiller we don't need AD!! 😛

                                        How did you even get to that part already? lol

                                        Because he only reads and responds to the most recent page.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @MC_Bol is going to hook @WrCombs up with some AD stuff in production to get him hands on working with real systems.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Resume:

                                            @MC_Bol is going to hook @WrCombs up with some AD stuff in production to get him hands on working with real systems.

                                            Yeah, @WrCombs will have something to break that's production!

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