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    Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      So to your coworkers point, I would say, no there is no need for a separate full backup weekly.

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        Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 Yeah, I read that already but it dodnt help clarify on those questions I had.

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          Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

          So to your coworkers point, I would say, no there is no need for a separate full backup weekly.

          He is daying npt to use synthetics on a saturday. Just do the incremental and an active full 😕

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @Jimmy9008
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            @Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

            @DustinB3403 Yeah, I read that already but it dodnt help clarify on those questions I had.

            @Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

            'its safer and our systems can handle it'

            Isn't a valid argument for adding an additional backup, network stress and disk usage to your system. Synthetic is fine.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @Jimmy9008
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              @Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

              @DustinB3403 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

              So to your coworkers point, I would say, no there is no need for a separate full backup weekly.

              He is daying npt to use synthetics on a saturday. Just do the incremental and an active full 😕

              I'm going to take some guesses fixing this.

              He is saying not to use synthetics on Saturday, just use incrementals and a separate active full

              Is that correct?

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                Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

                @Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

                @DustinB3403 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

                So to your coworkers point, I would say, no there is no need for a separate full backup weekly.

                He is daying npt to use synthetics on a saturday. Just do the incremental and an active full 😕

                I'm going to take some guesses fixing this.

                He is saying not to use synthetics on Saturday, just use incrementals and a separate active full

                Is that correct?

                Yes. 🙂

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                  Jimmy9008
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                  Are they safer? If not, why do active full even exist?

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                  • DashrenderD
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

                    & Replication accesses the previous full backup file and a chain of subsequent incremental backup files on the backup

                    Reverse it on him - ask him how active full is safer?

                    If you don't trust the data in the incrementals and the previous full backup, then why are you using the product?

                    Putting load on production shortens its lifespan - maybe not noticeably, but it still does because of work being done.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Jimmy9008
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                      @Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

                      Are they safer? If not, why do active full even exist?

                      Because you never get rid of tech you already have, you just add to it. Also, the first full backup has to be just that - an active full backup, there is no previous full and incrementals to pull from.

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                        Jimmy9008 @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

                        & Replication accesses the previous full backup file and a chain of subsequent incremental backup files on the backup

                        Reverse it on him - ask him how active full is safer?

                        If you don't trust the data in the incrementals and the previous full backup, then why are you using the product?

                        Putting load on production shortens its lifespan - maybe not noticeably, but it still does because of work being done.

                        I like this idea. That could work well - thank you.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
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                          Because I sync Veeam’s backup target (a Synology NAS) to B2, I do not use the synthetic full that daily recreates the full backup. That would cause the entire vdk to need to be uploaded to B2 every day.

                          In my case I set up active full to run on Fridays. A different server each Friday. Stacking various serves on the same Friday to balance the load over the month.

                          Then daily incrementals.

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                            wrx7m @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said in Veeam Active Full or Synthetic Full?:

                            Because I sync Veeam’s backup target (a Synology NAS) to B2, I do not use the synthetic full that daily recreates the full backup. That would cause the entire vdk to need to be uploaded to B2 every day.

                            In my case I set up active full to run on Fridays. A different server each Friday. Stacking various serves on the same Friday to balance the load over the month.

                            Then daily incrementals.

                            This is also exactly why I don't do this.

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