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    • IRJI
      IRJ @WrCombs
      last edited by

      @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

      @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

      The simple answer is because of consolidation, footprint, energy, cooling, cost savings, administration simplification.

      The long answer is paging @scottalanmiller.

      okay.. How does it work?

      A Hypervisor host allows you to use divvy up resource to create VMs. You can set appropriate workloads on each VM and monitor those VMs as needs increase or decrease. You can change things like RAM, CPU cores, etc quickly and easily to meet your needs.

      Essentially in 2019 you shouldn't consider a physical host without using a hypervisor unless there is a very specific reason for doing so.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @WrCombs
        last edited by

        @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

        @Emad-R said in Why Virtualize?:

        @WrCombs

        what does virus protection have to do with single os?

        VMs are separated so a virus cannot go from VM to VM . Once in awhile there have been host exploits to get around this, but they generally pretty rare.

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        • WrCombsW
          WrCombs @IRJ
          last edited by

          @IRJ said in Why Virtualize?:

          @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

          @Emad-R said in Why Virtualize?:

          @WrCombs

          what does virus protection have to do with single os?

          VMs are separated so a virus cannot go from VM to VM . Once in awhile there have been host exploits to get around this, but they generally pretty rare.

          ah, That makes more sense.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @WrCombs
            last edited by

            @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

            @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

            @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

            @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

            The simple answer is because of consolidation, footprint, energy, cooling, cost savings, administration simplification.

            The long answer is paging @scottalanmiller.

            okay.. How does it work?

            How does virtualization work? Just like running a program on Windows 10, each VM is a separate program that runs on the hypervisor.

            and in a regular set up you'd use this to run servers? controllers? back ups? Images?

            Those are weird things to list together.

            A VM is nothing more than a server running in a container instead of directly on the hardware it's running on.

            i.e. You have a physical server - you install a hypervisor (the thing that allows you to have VMs running under it)... then you create VMs under the hypervisor. Each VM acts like it's own piece of physical hardware - in general, the Operating System running in the VM has no idea that it's not running on physical hardware (OK before someone blasts me, most OSes today do know they are running in a VM, but that's beside the point)... now treat each VM as if it was running on it's own hardware.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              one of the major benefits you get is hardware abstraction - this means you can move the VM to almost any other hardware and it doesn't know any difference. In the case of a disaster, you build a new server with the hypervisor, restore the VM from backups and just go.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @WrCombs
                last edited by

                @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                Is there a certification course?

                It is very important to have a basic understanding virtualization because damn near everything is virtualized these days. Once you have a basic understanding, you would be better off learning Cloud technologies. It is virtualization on steriods.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @WrCombs
                  last edited by Obsolesce

                  @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                  The simple answer is because of consolidation, footprint, energy, cooling, cost savings, administration simplification.

                  The long answer is paging @scottalanmiller.

                  okay.. How does it work?

                  What is virtualization?
                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/virtualization/hyper-v-on-windows/about/

                  Hyper-V Architecture
                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/virtualization/hyper-v-on-windows/reference/hyper-v-architecture

                  Azure Virtual Machines Overview
                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/windows/overview

                  Blog
                  https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Virtualization/bg-p/Virtualization

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                    A VM is nothing more than a server running in a container instead of directly on the hardware it's running on.

                    You have to be careful with the container term as a VM and a container are technically different, but using container is a good term to help get the point across.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @IRJ said in Why Virtualize?:

                      @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                      A VM is nothing more than a server running in a container instead of directly on the hardware it's running on.

                      You have to be careful with the container term as a VM and a container are technically different, but using container is a good term to help get the point across.

                      yeah - I know... containers came on the scene.. now we have to be extra careful in how we explain things...

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                      • WrCombsW
                        WrCombs @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                        @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                        @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                        The simple answer is because of consolidation, footprint, energy, cooling, cost savings, administration simplification.

                        The long answer is paging @scottalanmiller.

                        okay.. How does it work?

                        How does virtualization work? Just like running a program on Windows 10, each VM is a separate program that runs on the hypervisor.

                        and in a regular set up you'd use this to run servers? controllers? back ups? Images?

                        Those are weird things to list together.

                        A VM is nothing more than a server running in a container instead of directly on the hardware it's running on.

                        i.e. You have a physical server - you install a hypervisor (the thing that allows you to have VMs running under it)... then you create VMs under the hypervisor. Each VM acts like it's own piece of physical hardware - in general, the Operating System running in the VM has no idea that it's not running on physical hardware (OK before someone blasts me, most OSes today do know they are running in a VM, but that's beside the point)... now treat each VM as if it was running on it's own hardware.

                        well, that's why I was asking the question the way I did.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @WrCombs
                          last edited by

                          @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                          @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                          @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                          @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                          The simple answer is because of consolidation, footprint, energy, cooling, cost savings, administration simplification.

                          The long answer is paging @scottalanmiller.

                          okay.. How does it work?

                          How does virtualization work? Just like running a program on Windows 10, each VM is a separate program that runs on the hypervisor.

                          and in a regular set up you'd use this to run servers? controllers? back ups? Images?

                          Those are weird things to list together.

                          A VM is nothing more than a server running in a container instead of directly on the hardware it's running on.

                          i.e. You have a physical server - you install a hypervisor (the thing that allows you to have VMs running under it)... then you create VMs under the hypervisor. Each VM acts like it's own piece of physical hardware - in general, the Operating System running in the VM has no idea that it's not running on physical hardware (OK before someone blasts me, most OSes today do know they are running in a VM, but that's beside the point)... now treat each VM as if it was running on it's own hardware.

                          well, that's why I was asking the question the way I did.

                          uh - why exactly was that?

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                            @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                            @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                            @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                            @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                            The simple answer is because of consolidation, footprint, energy, cooling, cost savings, administration simplification.

                            The long answer is paging @scottalanmiller.

                            okay.. How does it work?

                            How does virtualization work? Just like running a program on Windows 10, each VM is a separate program that runs on the hypervisor.

                            and in a regular set up you'd use this to run servers? controllers? back ups? Images?

                            Those are weird things to list together.

                            A VM is nothing more than a server running in a container instead of directly on the hardware it's running on.

                            i.e. You have a physical server - you install a hypervisor (the thing that allows you to have VMs running under it)... then you create VMs under the hypervisor. Each VM acts like it's own piece of physical hardware - in general, the Operating System running in the VM has no idea that it's not running on physical hardware (OK before someone blasts me, most OSes today do know they are running in a VM, but that's beside the point)... now treat each VM as if it was running on it's own hardware.

                            well, that's why I was asking the question the way I did.

                            uh - why exactly was that?

                            Cause I dont know any better obviously.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce
                              last edited by Obsolesce

                              Also, watch the 2nd and 3rd videos in the introduction here (free). They explain it for the most part:

                              https://www.udemy.com/course/virtualization-intro/

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @WrCombs
                                last edited by

                                @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                                @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                                @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                                @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                                The simple answer is because of consolidation, footprint, energy, cooling, cost savings, administration simplification.

                                The long answer is paging @scottalanmiller.

                                okay.. How does it work?

                                How does virtualization work? Just like running a program on Windows 10, each VM is a separate program that runs on the hypervisor.

                                and in a regular set up you'd use this to run servers? controllers? back ups? Images?

                                Those are weird things to list together.

                                A VM is nothing more than a server running in a container instead of directly on the hardware it's running on.

                                i.e. You have a physical server - you install a hypervisor (the thing that allows you to have VMs running under it)... then you create VMs under the hypervisor. Each VM acts like it's own piece of physical hardware - in general, the Operating System running in the VM has no idea that it's not running on physical hardware (OK before someone blasts me, most OSes today do know they are running in a VM, but that's beside the point)... now treat each VM as if it was running on it's own hardware.

                                well, that's why I was asking the question the way I did.

                                uh - why exactly was that?

                                Cause I dont know any better obviously.

                                Awww.. well - good amount of answers here so far - just be prepared for Scott's answer when he gets around to ya 🙂

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  There's probably a ton of YouTube vids as well.

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                                  • WrCombsW
                                    WrCombs @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                                    @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                    @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                                    @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                    @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                                    @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                                    @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                                    The simple answer is because of consolidation, footprint, energy, cooling, cost savings, administration simplification.

                                    The long answer is paging @scottalanmiller.

                                    okay.. How does it work?

                                    How does virtualization work? Just like running a program on Windows 10, each VM is a separate program that runs on the hypervisor.

                                    and in a regular set up you'd use this to run servers? controllers? back ups? Images?

                                    Those are weird things to list together.

                                    A VM is nothing more than a server running in a container instead of directly on the hardware it's running on.

                                    i.e. You have a physical server - you install a hypervisor (the thing that allows you to have VMs running under it)... then you create VMs under the hypervisor. Each VM acts like it's own piece of physical hardware - in general, the Operating System running in the VM has no idea that it's not running on physical hardware (OK before someone blasts me, most OSes today do know they are running in a VM, but that's beside the point)... now treat each VM as if it was running on it's own hardware.

                                    well, that's why I was asking the question the way I did.

                                    uh - why exactly was that?

                                    Cause I dont know any better obviously.

                                    Awww.. well - good amount of answers here so far - just be prepared for Scott's answer when he gets around to ya 🙂

                                    Yeah.. and the Conversations that stem from it

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ @WrCombs
                                      last edited by

                                      @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      @Dashrender said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Why Virtualize?:

                                      The simple answer is because of consolidation, footprint, energy, cooling, cost savings, administration simplification.

                                      The long answer is paging @scottalanmiller.

                                      okay.. How does it work?

                                      How does virtualization work? Just like running a program on Windows 10, each VM is a separate program that runs on the hypervisor.

                                      and in a regular set up you'd use this to run servers? controllers? back ups? Images?

                                      Those are weird things to list together.

                                      A VM is nothing more than a server running in a container instead of directly on the hardware it's running on.

                                      i.e. You have a physical server - you install a hypervisor (the thing that allows you to have VMs running under it)... then you create VMs under the hypervisor. Each VM acts like it's own piece of physical hardware - in general, the Operating System running in the VM has no idea that it's not running on physical hardware (OK before someone blasts me, most OSes today do know they are running in a VM, but that's beside the point)... now treat each VM as if it was running on it's own hardware.

                                      well, that's why I was asking the question the way I did.

                                      uh - why exactly was that?

                                      Cause I dont know any better obviously.

                                      Awww.. well - good amount of answers here so far - just be prepared for Scott's answer when he gets around to ya 🙂

                                      Yeah.. and the Conversations that stem from it

                                      Go to the Youtube vids or Udemy course if you want focused material on it. Then the sidebar conversations will make more sense.

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                                      • RojoLocoR
                                        RojoLoco
                                        last edited by

                                        The simple answer to "why virtualize" is that if you don't, everyone here will make fun of you (ask me how I know).

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ @RojoLoco
                                          last edited by

                                          @RojoLoco said in Why Virtualize?:

                                          The simple answer to "why virtualize" is that if you don't, everyone here will make fun of you (ask me how I know).

                                          It is difficult to have a valid reason to run a physical server anymore.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @IRJ
                                            last edited by

                                            @IRJ said in Why Virtualize?:

                                            @RojoLoco said in Why Virtualize?:

                                            The simple answer to "why virtualize" is that if you don't, everyone here will make fun of you (ask me how I know).

                                            It is difficult to have a valid reason to run a physical server anymore.

                                            There's always a snowflake reason, but you should always virtualize unless you have super specific reasons not to.

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