VitalPBX Sonata Suite
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Sonata Suite Switchboard: $65
FFS tired of the one-time payment spiel...
https://vitalpbx.org/en/sonata-switchboard/
Basically the same as FOP2 even visually in many places.
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Sontata Billing: $100
You guessed it one-time payment only updated for a year.
https://vitalpbx.org/en/sonata-billing/
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Sontata Suite Recordings: $150 for 25 extensions
You guessed it one-time payment only updated for a year.
https://vitalpbx.org/en/sonata-recordings/
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SonataSuite Communicator: $35 ??? Per user? unlimited??
Their own softphone.
one-time payment only updated for a year.
https://vitalpbx.org/en/sonata-communicator/
But OMFG BLFs!!!!!!!!!!!! That is awesome! Dead fucking serious.
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This one is not listed on their main page under products. In fact I have no idea WTF this is supposed to be for because I only found it after I went to their "Store" link.
Sonata Communications Server $50 for 5 agents.
one-time payment only updated for a year.
https://vitalpbx.org/en/product/sonata-communicator-server/
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@JaredBusch said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
Sonata Suite Switchboard: $65
Basically the same as FOP2 even visually in many places.Even a clone of the Free FOP2 limitation of 15 buttons..
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"One time payment and free updates for one year", so basically...
It's a yearly payment because you will want the updates
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@StuartJordan said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
"One time payment and free updates for one year", so basically...
It's a yearly payment because you will want the updates
Sangoma pulls this same scheme for some of the commercial modules. I don’t even mind a recurring payment. I know things cost money to maintain updates for.
I dislike it hidden.
If you poke around enough you can find the yearly updates on Sangoma’s portal.
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I think that their "one time payment" is meant to convey that you own it. It doesn't time bomb after a year. So you can operate it as long as you like, just can't get updates after the year.
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@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
I think that their "one time payment" is meant to convey that you own it. It doesn't time bomb after a year. So you can operate it as long as you like, just can't get updates after the year.
Then they should use the normal term - perpetual license.
But really, they should also include another line that specifically says - yearly maintenance is - blah. -
@Dashrender said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
I think that their "one time payment" is meant to convey that you own it. It doesn't time bomb after a year. So you can operate it as long as you like, just can't get updates after the year.
Then they should use the normal term - perpetual license.
But really, they should also include another line that specifically says - yearly maintenance is - blah.yeah. Is the yearly maintenance the same cost as the one time payment or the standard-ish 20% when you have a perpetual model?
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@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
I think that their "one time payment" is meant to convey that you own it. It doesn't time bomb after a year. So you can operate it as long as you like, just can't get updates after the year.
The start of any legal battle is ambiguity in the ToC.
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@wrx7m said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
@Dashrender said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
I think that their "one time payment" is meant to convey that you own it. It doesn't time bomb after a year. So you can operate it as long as you like, just can't get updates after the year.
Then they should use the normal term - perpetual license.
But really, they should also include another line that specifically says - yearly maintenance is - blah.yeah. Is the yearly maintenance the same cost as the one time payment or the standard-ish 20% when you have a perpetual model?
From what we can tell, you just rebuy it whenever you want more maintenance. There might be a discount, but assume not.
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@DustinB3403 said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
I think that their "one time payment" is meant to convey that you own it. It doesn't time bomb after a year. So you can operate it as long as you like, just can't get updates after the year.
The start of any legal battle is ambiguity in the ToC.
I don't see any ambiguity. You pay once, it's that simple. You want updates, you buy them.
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@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
@DustinB3403 said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
I think that their "one time payment" is meant to convey that you own it. It doesn't time bomb after a year. So you can operate it as long as you like, just can't get updates after the year.
The start of any legal battle is ambiguity in the ToC.
I don't see any ambiguity. You pay once, it's that simple. You want updates, you buy them.
Really you think the one time payment is A but it might be oranges.
@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
I think that their "one time payment"
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@DustinB3403 said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
Really you think the one time payment is A but it might be oranges.
No, it IS a one time payment. You buy the thing mentioned. Same as with any normal software. If you buy any software for a one time payment, and nothing else is said, there is no expectation of updates in the future.
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@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
@DustinB3403 said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
Really you think the one time payment is A but it might be oranges.
No, it IS a one time payment. You buy the thing mentioned. Same as with any normal software. If you buy any software for a one time payment, and nothing else is said, there is no expectation of updates in the future.
There is an expectation of updates. In this case for a fixed, known term. Fine. But there is then an expectation of knowing the ongoing update cost.
FreePBX does not mention renew in the purchase directly, but their wiki covers it.
https://wiki.freepbx.org/display/FPG/Commercial+Module+Upgrade+RenewalsFreePBX commercial models renew for only a fraction of original cost.
EPM New: $149 (25 year, basically perpetual)
Phone Apps New: $499 (25 year, basically perpetual)But renewal is only $26.82 and $53.82 respectively.
Having this experience and knowing how things work regarding updates on purchased software in general, I looked and I could find nothing regarding renewals on VitalPBX's website.
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Additionally FOP2 offers updates at a fraction of the original purchase price.
https://www.fop2.com/buy.php $20 annually. -
The same goes for ScreenConnect self hosted. I purchased it for $600 (originally only 2 licenses) and maintenance renewals is 20% of that cost.
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So all of that means that this is bullshit..
@scottalanmiller said in VitalPBX Sonata Suite:
From what we can tell, you just rebuy it whenever you want more maintenance. There might be a discount, but assume not.
