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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @mroth911
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      @mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:

      what email client are you using

      We use web, like sensible people. Fat mail clients are generally a pretty awful idea.

      I think that the idea of using mail clients is mostly something from the Exchange world because Exchange lacked a good interface for so long. Outside of Exchange users, I rare find anyone who would even think to try out a fat mail application.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Even when we were on Office 365, we didn't use Outlook. Literally the worst thing that ever happened to email. Outlook is truly awful. OWA is better, still not great. But way easier to manage, and more reliable.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          In rare cases where we need a client, Thunderbird and MailSpring are pretty good.

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          • mroth911M
            mroth911
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            Is there like an on premise 365 type deal? IDK just asking.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @mroth911
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              @mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:

              Is there like an on premise 365 type deal? IDK just asking.

              Not sure what you mean.

              Office 365 is the hosted version of Exchange. Are you thinking of Exchange as being the on-premise version of O365?

              Zimbra is the mail server. As is MailCow. It goes wherever you want it.

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              • mroth911M
                mroth911
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                Ok. like the whole bundle .. exchange, word excel. Etc.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  We ran on Zimbra for mail years, then tried Rackspace and O365, but returned to Zimbra. Zimbra is solid and pretty easy to use and "just works". It's got a lot of features. Biggest complaint is that they used to be the absolute leader in email GUIs, now they are trailing terribly having not updated for around a dozen years.

                  Last year they promised a major new update, then silently dropped it. So a lot of people are losing faith in where they are headed.

                  MailCow addresses that a lot more aggressively.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @mroth911
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                    @mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:

                    Ok. like the whole bundle .. exchange, word excel. Etc.

                    OH!

                    No one makes a single thing like that. But putting your own together is not a big deal. We use Zimbra, NextCloud, and Collabora. It all integrates and gives you storage like OneDrive, email like Exchange, word processing, spreadsheet, and presentation software.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      We then add Rocket.chat instead of MS Teams. We use a normal wiki instead of Sharepoint. Nextcloud replicates the non-wiki parts of Sharepoint file storage.

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                      • mroth911M
                        mroth911
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                        really

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @mroth911
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                          @mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:

                          really

                          Yup, we've been using that all in production for a while (Collabora is the only recent part.) Collabora takes LibreOffice and makes it hosted in your web browser so that it launches right from inside of your NextCloud storage.

                          It's a pretty nice package.

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                          • mroth911M
                            mroth911 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller nice I am paying 12.50 @ 10 accounts . For a small business its not cost affective. I dont have ad..

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @mroth911
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                              @mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:

                              @scottalanmiller nice I am paying 12.50 @ 10 accounts . For a small business its not cost affective. I dont have ad..

                              Ours run on our Scale HC3 cluster and probably costs around $15/mo beyond that, mostly for MailGun.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Don't forget to factor backup, spam filtering, etc.

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                                  1337 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                                  MailGun

                                  Is that the same type of service as Sendgrid? Do you send all outgoing mail through it?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @1337
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                                    @Pete-S said in Building a Mail Server:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                                    MailGun

                                    Is that the same type of service as Sendgrid? Do you send all outgoing mail through it?

                                    That's correct. We've had better luck with MailGun, though. Used both and I like SendGrid, but their deliverability wasn't very good.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre
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                                      Apparently Twillio is buying Sendgrid...

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                                        Harry Lui
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                                        https://www.rackspace.com/en-us/email-hosting

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                                        • jmooreJ
                                          jmoore @Harry Lui
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                                          @Harry-Lui That is what I use for my sites. Its a nice little service.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                                            MailCow is what we are looking at. @Alex-Sage recommends it. It looks promising.

                                            https://mailcow.email/

                                            You just never sit still.

                                            I thought you were against self hosted email for most?

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