All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?
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@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
In your specific case, the answer would be maybe.
These are the Mitel devices supported in the commercial EPM module.
Does that mean no other phones will work? No. Some might, but they are going to be something you handle manually.
I have 19 of those (I think). The older Mitel IP phones are 8662s, and while they support SIP, I didn't find a lot of resources for them before, so I'd likely bail on them.
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Assuming we replaced all current phones, I'd be needing between 103 - 122 new phones.
Mitel has a migration path for the Digital phones - keeping them digital on a new Mitel 5000 for approximately $10K. This would allow us to continue using all of the current phones with no change. As old digital phones die, we can replace them with current digital models for approx $95-200 depending on model desired. What I don't know is if I'll need new digital licenses to go along with them? This solution also ensures I don't need to run any new cabling.
This will still be the least expensive short term solution.
Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).
Total before any hired services or cable replacement - if needed - $14,300
Something seems off - this number seems way lower than I was thinking it would end up being.
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The biggest issue most businesses have is the "but I have phones already, can't we just use it"?
So I'd imagine you'll have a battle to get that $12,200
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@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).
That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.
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@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).
That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.
Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.
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@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Yealink T42S
The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.
Only $46.99
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And that's if you need high end phones. If you are coming from digital phones, you might not want to go so nice.
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@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
And that's if you need high end phones. If you are coming from digital phones, you might not want to go so nice.
Unless he can convince people to change call parking, he will need buttons.
I've been down this road with him twice. -
@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).
That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.
Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.
I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.
Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
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@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).
That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.
Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.
I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.
Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
We get them from PCM with the bricks included. @ysapir
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@DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Yealink T42S
The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.
Only $46.99
Those are the old model. While not EOL yet, most of the rest of that design has been EOL.
The current base model is the T40G, IMO. There is a T19P-E2 for a single line, no button phone.
The T41S is the non-gigbit version of the T42S.
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@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).
That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.
Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.
I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.
Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
We get them from PCM with the bricks included. @ysapir
Are they adding it 3rd party (themselves)? I have never seen a SKU from Yealink that includes the power brick.
Yeah, I'm not in distribution, but still. -
@DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
The biggest issue most businesses have is the "but I have phones already, can't we just use it"?
So I'd imagine you'll have a battle to get that $12,200
No - the sunk cost thing really isn't the issue this time.
I have to spend $10K to update my old shit - or spent $14,300'ish to get all new...
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@DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Yealink T42S
The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.
Only $46.99
There is not an afford thing here. The doctors likely wouldn't want us to use the shittiest little phones... spending more is OK... $100/phone would be pretty easy spend.
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@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).
That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.
Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.
I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.
Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
We get them from PCM with the bricks included. @ysapir
Are they adding it 3rd party (themselves)? I have never seen a SKU from Yealink that includes the power brick.
Yeah, I'm not in distribution, but still.No, it's just part of the SKU.
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@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
The biggest issue most businesses have is the "but I have phones already, can't we just use it"?
So I'd imagine you'll have a battle to get that $12,200
No - the sunk cost thing really isn't the issue this time.
I have to spend $10K to update my old shit - or spent $14,300'ish to get all new...
Is $14,300 realistic? What's generating the last bit over the handsets, the gateways?
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@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
And that's if you need high end phones. If you are coming from digital phones, you might not want to go so nice.
Our digital phones are crazy with buttons.. granted we don't use/need them... but moving to a phone that is super stark in comparison would be a moral killer - there is at least a tiny bit of value in that.
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@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Yealink T42S
The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.
Only $46.99
There is not an afford thing here. The doctors likely wouldn't want us to use the shittiest little phones... spending more is OK... $100/phone would be pretty easy spend.
BUT they are okay with embarrassingly old shitty phones now. So that makes no sense. By that logic, they'd go to full VoIP right now for that very reason alone.
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@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Yealink T42S
The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.
Only $46.99
There is not an afford thing here. The doctors likely wouldn't want us to use the shittiest little phones... spending more is OK... $100/phone would be pretty easy spend.
BUT they are okay with embarrassingly old shitty phones now. So that makes no sense. By that logic, they'd go to full VoIP right now for that very reason alone.
How do you know what phones are in place today?
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@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
@Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:
Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).
That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.
Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.
I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.
Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.
Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.
So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.
