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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      In Rochester we don't have those kinds of outages. Maybe it's because we're a much smaller city or because our infrastructure is better maintained

      I'd refuse to pay for service like that.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

        @scottalanmiller said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

        @pmoncho said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

        @scottalanmiller said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

        @pmoncho said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

        @mlnews said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

        Comcast offered to wire up Charlemont, Mass. for $462,000—town said, "no."

        A small Massachusetts town has rejected an offer from Comcast and instead plans to build a municipal fiber broadband network.

        Comcast offered to bring cable Internet to up to 96 percent of households in Charlemont in exchange for the town paying $462,123 plus interest toward infrastructure costs over 15 years. But Charlemont residents rejected the Comcast offer in a vote at a special town meeting Thursday.

        "The Comcast proposal would have saved the town about $1 million, but it would not be a town-owned broadband network," the Greenfield Recorder reported Friday. "The defeated measure means that Charlemont will likely go forward with a $1.4 million municipal town network, as was approved by annual town meeting voters in 2015."

        About 160 residents voted, with 56 percent rejecting the Comcast offer, according to news reports.

        Using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemont,_Massachusetts

        With so few homes, the % needed to keep costs down may be hard to reach with a median income of $50K per household and 10% of the population around the poverty line.

        I sure hope it works out for them though.

        Only $833 / person in one time construction costs. Assume that's $3300 / household to cover.

        Comcast would likely be something like $90/mo and this will likely cost more like $10/mo (in taxes, direct fees, whatever.) That would suggest that it would pay for itself in four years, and be a massive cost savings for the poor after that.

        And that's assuming no businesses or grants involved in the process, which might lighten the load considerably. Or if there is cash in the village coffers, then they could avoid interest and it would be closer to three years to pay off.

        I unless I misunderstood, the town will still charge $79 a month and $99 if only 40% adoption.

        $79 for Gigabit, not $200 for 100Mb/s or whatever with caps that Comcast does. My family in Houston pays hundreds and gets flaky service and can't even download Steam games at Christmas without paying penalty fees.

        They might offer way cheaper for people not wanting Gigabit speeds. It's still a massive gap over Comcast. And if they got the penetration, they were paying for the construction entirely from the subscriber fees.

        I don't like Comcast but we never have issues like that. Ours is $85 a month for 200 down. It's been very very reliable.

        wow - lucky you.. 150 down costs $99 here

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

          In Rochester we don't have those kinds of outages. Maybe it's because we're a much smaller city or because our infrastructure is better maintained

          I'd refuse to pay for service like that.

          In most places - if you refuse to pay for service like that, then you simply have no service at all.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

            @DustinB3403 said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

            In Rochester we don't have those kinds of outages. Maybe it's because we're a much smaller city or because our infrastructure is better maintained

            I'd refuse to pay for service like that.

            In most places - if you refuse to pay for service like that, then you simply have no service at all.

            Sad but true.

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            • DonahueD
              Donahue
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              We are lucky. We pay $90 for gig symmetrical at our HQ. The branch is like $300 for 1000/500

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              • pmonchoP
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                Where I'm at, you pay $49 for ATT DSL 7.5 down (that is it) or $90 to Spectrum for 100Mb down.

                I am in a suburb in OH but I live on a dead end street of a main street. 400 yards away ATT Fiber Uverse with 10/100 for $79. They won't run down my street at all.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @pmoncho
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                  @pmoncho said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                  Where I'm at, you pay $49 for ATT DSL 7.5 down (that is it) or $90 to Spectrum for 100Mb down.

                  I am in a suburb in OH but I live on a dead end street of a main street. 400 yards away ATT Fiber Uverse with 10/100 for $79. They won't run down my street at all.

                  make a deal with someone close by to install to their premise and use Ubiquiti gear to send it to your house.

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                  • pmonchoP
                    pmoncho @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                    @pmoncho said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                    Where I'm at, you pay $49 for ATT DSL 7.5 down (that is it) or $90 to Spectrum for 100Mb down.

                    I am in a suburb in OH but I live on a dead end street of a main street. 400 yards away ATT Fiber Uverse with 10/100 for $79. They won't run down my street at all.

                    make a deal with someone close by to install to their premise and use Ubiquiti gear to send it to your house.

                    That would be nice wouldn't. Just need to cut down some dense 100' Oak and Maple trees too.

                    Although, I could use another friend. 🙂

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @pmoncho
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                      @pmoncho said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                      @JaredBusch said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                      @pmoncho said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                      Where I'm at, you pay $49 for ATT DSL 7.5 down (that is it) or $90 to Spectrum for 100Mb down.

                      I am in a suburb in OH but I live on a dead end street of a main street. 400 yards away ATT Fiber Uverse with 10/100 for $79. They won't run down my street at all.

                      make a deal with someone close by to install to their premise and use Ubiquiti gear to send it to your house.

                      That would be nice wouldn't. Just need to cut down some dense 100' Oak and Maple trees too.

                      Although, I could use another friend. 🙂

                      zero line of sight at all?

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                      • pmonchoP
                        pmoncho @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                        @pmoncho said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                        @JaredBusch said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                        @pmoncho said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                        Where I'm at, you pay $49 for ATT DSL 7.5 down (that is it) or $90 to Spectrum for 100Mb down.

                        I am in a suburb in OH but I live on a dead end street of a main street. 400 yards away ATT Fiber Uverse with 10/100 for $79. They won't run down my street at all.

                        make a deal with someone close by to install to their premise and use Ubiquiti gear to send it to your house.

                        That would be nice wouldn't. Just need to cut down some dense 100' Oak and Maple trees too.

                        Although, I could use another friend. 🙂

                        zero line of sight at all?

                        Correct. I just don't know if I could put up a 30' pole on their home and mine to get a line of sight.

                        Trust me, it is really f***ing annoying around here. The only solution is to move but that won't happen anytime soon.

                        ATT and DirectTV came around recently and I seen my neighbors switch over. Then they realized how crappy ATT DSL was and how the Dish's hard a hard time getting a signal through the trees on a windy day. Needless to say, all 8 of them switched back to Spectrum.

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                        • Reid CooperR
                          Reid Cooper
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                          Four hundred yards isn't all that far. Might be worth a small investment in equipment to see if it could cut through some dense foliage.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
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                            Just had this email exchange today with Adams Telecom.
                            Note: The existing service was 50/50 with a 3 year contract at $80. Contract expired this month.

                            This is what happens when small municipalities are ignored. They work with local telecoms or do it themselves. Ans the costs are always better.
                            7196f10d-76e5-4d04-8b10-8e0b9aec0318-image.png

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                            • pmonchoP
                              pmoncho @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fiber instead:

                              Just had this email exchange today with Adams Telecom.
                              Note: The existing service was 50/50 with a 3 year contract at $80. Contract expired this month.

                              This is what happens when small municipalities are ignored. They work with local telecoms or do it themselves. Ans the costs are always better.
                              7196f10d-76e5-4d04-8b10-8e0b9aec0318-image.png

                              Must be F'ng NICE! B#&%@ 🙂

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