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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite
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      What time do guys normally schedule reboots? During business hours? Early mornings? Late evenings? Weekends only?

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      • NerdyDadN
        NerdyDad @black3dynamite
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        @black3dynamite said in Do you ask for permission...:

        What time do guys normally schedule reboots? During business hours? Early mornings? Late evenings? Weekends only?

        Depends on duties and priority of the systems it supports and the benefits of the changes being made. Typically they are either late night/very early morning or weekend. If it can be done during lunch hour, then its done during lunch hour.

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        • WLS-ITGuyW
          WLS-ITGuy @black3dynamite
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          @black3dynamite said in Do you ask for permission...:

          What time do guys normally schedule reboots? During business hours? Early mornings? Late evenings? Weekends only?

          Was that a question for everyone? Either way:

          I do maintenance on all desktops/Servers on Thursdays. That way if something goes sideways I am not working on the weekend, hopefully.

          There are a few times where I miss the opportunity to do the maintenance on Thursday so I'll do them during lunch or at EOD.

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          • DonahueD
            Donahue
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            We are a manufacturing company with two shifts. Usually my "ideal" downtime still effects people being able to clock in and out of jobs on the production floor. I am not going to do my work at 2am from home, so I just live with unavoidable interruptions. I just try and make it as minimal as possible. I actually blasted out an email warning of having to do one today at 12:45pm. It's after our shop staff should be back from lunch, and before everyone else starts working after lunch.

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            • PhlipElderP
              PhlipElder @black3dynamite
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              @black3dynamite said in Do you ask for permission...:

              What time do guys normally schedule reboots? During business hours? Early mornings? Late evenings? Weekends only?

              Cluster nodes can be run pretty much anytime during the day.

              For servers running roles and services we schedule an outage and run with it.

              Methodology is straightforward:

              • Reboot the server if running longer than 60 days
              • Back up
              • Install the patch and reboot
              • Verify services

              If the patch fails restore.

              We use Veeam and ShadowProtect to back up with.

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              • WrCombsW
                WrCombs
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                I have to ask every time i need to reboot or refresh the system ( refresh is sending the new data added to our application to the front of house terminals, and updating them to be current.) With out question, unless the site is not open for business, or before operating hours.

                I think best Practice is to at least ask, especially when you reboot something that will effect the end user. or have set times,
                If this has already been said I apologies, I read the OP and then hit reply, Did not read through the rest of the thread.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  This is a discussion I have with all clients that task us with this responsibility.

                  We never ask for permission during the agreed upon window of time. For most of my clients that is anytime after the last person went home. Typically 6 P.M. in their timezone.

                  Anything outside of that is coordinated. But it is not "asking permission" it is coordination. Because if we want to reboot in the middle of the day, there is a reason for it.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in Do you ask for permission...:

                    This is a discussion I have with all clients that task us with this responsibility.

                    We never ask for permission during the agreed upon window of time. For most of my clients that is anytime after the last person went home. Typically 6 P.M. in their timezone.

                    Anything outside of that is coordinated. But it is not "asking permission" it is coordination. Because if we want to reboot in the middle of the day, there is a reason for it.

                    This is where I am. After hours and weekends - just reboot. During the day - something must really be f'ed up otherwise why the hell am i asking (really telling)?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @WLS-ITGuy
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                      @WLS-ITGuy said in Do you ask for permission...:

                      Do you always ask for permission to take a server down? Or do you give them a time frame that it will be down? Or do you just reboot at your leisure?

                      Very much "it depends".

                      Depends on the customer, the time period, the issue at hand, the workload, etc.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in Do you ask for permission...:

                        This is a discussion I have with all clients that task us with this responsibility.

                        We never ask for permission during the agreed upon window of time. For most of my clients that is anytime after the last person went home. Typically 6 P.M. in their timezone.

                        Anything outside of that is coordinated. But it is not "asking permission" it is coordination. Because if we want to reboot in the middle of the day, there is a reason for it.

                        We do the same, so good to see others already do it.

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                        • Emad RE
                          Emad R @WLS-ITGuy
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                          @WLS-ITGuy said in Do you ask for permission...:

                          I guess this question can apply to the MSPs that may be here as well.

                          Do you always ask for permission to take a server down? Or do you give them a time frame that it will be down? Or do you just reboot at your leisure?

                          Lately, any time I give anyone warning that at a certain time I will be rebooting a server I get push back. I have become "that guy" and just reboot whenever the F I want now.

                          Anyone else?

                          Depends on the client, some client wants you to take care of everything and will not care, some wants reason for everything. Try to identify early on which and which and treat accordingly, however it is best to play safe even if that means staying late and waiting for approvals

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