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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Not likely that big of deal. And a good exercise to go through.

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      • garak0410G
        garak0410
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        In researching our licenses, I did find folders and folders of certificates for DOS, Windows 3.1, Windows 95...for sure not in production...assuming that is OK to ditch...

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom @garak0410
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          @garak0410 said:

          In researching our licenses, I did find folders and folders of certificates for DOS, Windows 3.1, Windows 95...for sure not in production...assuming that is OK to ditch...

          Unless you have a stack of floppies and some old-ass hardware laying around that you feel like playing with for some unknown, odd reason...

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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen Banned
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            Wow, well at least this audit will help you get things cleaned up!

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410 @Minion Queen
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              @Minion-Queen said:

              Wow, well at least this audit will help you get things cleaned up!

              For real! And I am actually finding some useful stuff...hoping I do come across this needed info...

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              • JaredBuschJ
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                I had this at one client back in March.

                We had already performed our own internal audit and new that we needed some office licensing (10 licenses off 2013 Standard). We were going to purchase them over 3 months to spread out the impact on the numbers to cross two fiscal quarters. That ended up not happening.

                I found nothing else wrong during the audit other than some misapplied keys. Was quite pleased to not have any surprises.

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                • garak0410G
                  garak0410 @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said:

                  I had this at one client back in March.

                  We had already performed our own internal audit and new that we needed some office licensing (10 licenses off 2013 Standard). We were going to purchase them over 3 months to spread out the impact on the numbers to cross two fiscal quarters. That ended up not happening.

                  I found nothing else wrong during the audit other than some misapplied keys. Was quite pleased to not have any surprises.

                  Our hole seems to be SQL...and it may be a large one too. If any user who uses even the simplest of spreadsheets that hits SQL to get data, they are considered a user, correct?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                    @garak0410 said:

                    Our hole seems to be SQL...and it may be a large one too. If any user who uses even the simplest of spreadsheets that hits SQL to get data, they are considered a user, correct?

                    Oh yeah. Full user, no question.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                      @garak0410 said:

                      Our hole seems to be SQL...and it may be a large one too. If any user who uses even the simplest of spreadsheets that hits SQL to get data, they are considered a user, correct?

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Oh yeah. Full user, no question.

                      Yeah that is a reason to go with the per core licensing instead of per user. Office people with spreadsheets are a really light, intermittent load generally.

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                      • garak0410G
                        garak0410 @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @garak0410 said:

                        Our hole seems to be SQL...and it may be a large one too. If any user who uses even the simplest of spreadsheets that hits SQL to get data, they are considered a user, correct?

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Oh yeah. Full user, no question.

                        Yeah that is a reason to go with the per core licensing instead of per user. Office people with spreadsheets are a really light, intermittent load generally.

                        I got a quote for the Core SQL: $6,571.32

                        Vs Per User (50 Users): $8,611.20

                        And the Core is for an unlimited amount of users, right?

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @garak0410
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                          @garak0410 said:

                          I got a quote for the Core SQL: $6,571.32
                          Vs Per User (50 Users): $8,611.20
                          And the Core is for an unlimited amount of users, right?

                          yes it is unlimited connections. Each license is for 2 cores though. So unless your SQL server is a virtual machine with only 2 cores, you will need to buy enough copies to match the number of cores in the server.

                          Base don the $6k number that sounds like two licenses so 4 cores?

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                          • garak0410G
                            garak0410 @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @garak0410 said:

                            I got a quote for the Core SQL: $6,571.32
                            Vs Per User (50 Users): $8,611.20
                            And the Core is for an unlimited amount of users, right?

                            yes it is unlimited connections. Each license is for 2 cores though. So unless your SQL server is a virtual machine with only 2 cores, you will need to buy enough copies to match the number of cores in the server.

                            Base don the $6k number that sounds like two licenses so 4 cores?

                            Yes...2 licenses...still much cheaper than the 50 users...

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              4 cores is the minimum purchase, right?

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                              • C
                                Carnival Boy
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                                Yes.

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410
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                                  OK, starting on my master spreadsheet today of our licensing. As per audit, I do not have to send this to Microsoft but it will be good for us going forward. I'll post questions for you licensing experts here.

                                  First question...the original letter said not to uninstall anything that may be unlicensed at reception of the letter. If I find something installed that is unlicensed, even if we don't need it, do I buy as license for it?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                                    @garak0410 said:

                                    First question...the original letter said not to uninstall anything that may be unlicensed at reception of the letter. If I find something installed that is unlicensed, even if we don't need it, do I buy as license for it?

                                    Legally, yes. You already owe Microsoft the money because you have it installed. You owe retroactively because you've been owing them all of this time. Just because you uninstall it doesn't change that.

                                    Now will you ever get caught? Not likely. But ethically, it is money owed to Microsoft.

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @garak0410 said:

                                      First question...the original letter said not to uninstall anything that may be unlicensed at reception of the letter. If I find something installed that is unlicensed, even if we don't need it, do I buy as license for it?

                                      Legally, yes. You already owe Microsoft the money because you have it installed. You owe retroactively because you've been owing them all of this time. Just because you uninstall it doesn't change that.

                                      Now will you ever get caught? Not likely. But ethically, it is money owed to Microsoft.

                                      And ethically, I would buy it because we are agreeing to do so in that document we have to sign over when the audit is complete.

                                      Next Question...we rebuilt our old server with Microsoft Windows Server Standard 2012 R2 2CPU/2VM - Base License - OEM. Is that a violation since this was a rebuild of an old server? This server is my "play" server so I am the only one who uses it but we do run Spiceworks from it.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                                        @garak0410 said:

                                        Next Question...we rebuilt our old server with Microsoft Windows Server Standard 2012 R2 2CPU/2VM - Base License - OEM. Is that a violation since this was a rebuild of an old server? This server is my "play" server so I am the only one who uses it but we do run Spiceworks from it.

                                        OEM is fine as long as that is the only system on which that was ever applied.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          You can rebuild all that you want, it is transferring the license that you cannot do.

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                                          • garak0410G
                                            garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @garak0410 said:

                                            Next Question...we rebuilt our old server with Microsoft Windows Server Standard 2012 R2 2CPU/2VM - Base License - OEM. Is that a violation since this was a rebuild of an old server? This server is my "play" server so I am the only one who uses it but we do run Spiceworks from it.

                                            OEM is fine as long as that is the only system on which that was ever applied.

                                            Excellent...so if we run, say Spiceworks, on this second server, as mentioned above. If someone uses the Help Desk Portal, is that considered a CAL?

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