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@travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63182/amds-next-gen-epyc-64c-128t-7nm-performance-teased/index.html
128 threads in a single CPU. Looks like we really are quickly headed for single CPU systems being the standard.
We've had that for years now.
The T4 Yosemite Falls did 64 threads per CPU by 2011. And the T5 with 128 threads released in 2012, and was available in production servers by 2013. So a full half decade of 128 threads per CPU by this point.
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Currently, Oracle and Fujitsu both make 256 thread processors that replaced the T5 in their lineup.
The T5 was replaced by the M6, which did only 96 threads, but with vastly higher performance than the T5 threads. The M series was just faster than the T series.
But the M6 is old, as well. The M7 replaced it in 2015 and does 256 threads per CPU.
The M8 replaced the M7 in 2017, but did not add new threads, only made per thread performance better.
Expectation is that an M9 will likely be out in a year or a little more.
So we are currently on the fourth generation of 128+ thread processors.
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IBM Power 8 hit 96 threads per processor in 2014. The Power 9 replaced that in 2015. Power 9 does 192 threads per processor in SMT8 mode. So that's three years of quite a bit more than AMD is looking at, rumored, for next year.
The Power 10 is due in two years. And it states a key goal is to dramatically increase core count. So we are expecting 384+ threads on that one.
Not that what AMD is doing isn't impressive. Just don't think that high thread counts are an AMD thing. AMD is in next to last place on that. It only seems like AMD is doing something interesting because Intel is so spectacularly far behind.
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Also forgot, even the ARM RISC processors hit 128 threads a little (very little) bit ago. The Cavium ThunderX2 is 128 thread count and available today.
It's pretty shocking how far ahead all processor families are (in terms of thread count) over the AMD64 family.
However, it's interesting to also then say how much this tends to show how little thread count really matters to most workloads.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63182/amds-next-gen-epyc-64c-128t-7nm-performance-teased/index.html
128 threads in a single CPU. Looks like we really are quickly headed for single CPU systems being the standard.
We've had that for years now.
The T4 Yosemite Falls did 64 threads per CPU by 2011. And the T5 with 128 threads released in 2012, and was available in production servers by 2013. So a full half decade of 128 threads per CPU by this point.
And I actually saw systems back in the 1990s with 2000+ CPU in a single system. Doesn't mean they were mainstream, which is the real difference that's happening.
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@travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63182/amds-next-gen-epyc-64c-128t-7nm-performance-teased/index.html
128 threads in a single CPU. Looks like we really are quickly headed for single CPU systems being the standard.
We've had that for years now.
The T4 Yosemite Falls did 64 threads per CPU by 2011. And the T5 with 128 threads released in 2012, and was available in production servers by 2013. So a full half decade of 128 threads per CPU by this point.
And I actually saw systems back in the 1990s with 2000+ CPU in a single system. Doesn't mean they were mainstream, which is the real difference that's happening.
Epyc isn't particularly mainstream. It's a "potential, future, niche", and the niche is the same as the others. Power, Sparc, and ARM are all widely available. You have can just order and deploy them. Most are available for cloud computing publicly, too.
Epyc might share an architecture with more popular processors, and is a great system, but isn't super popular, at least not yet. I doubt it is selling more than Power is, for example. You are talking a future release, at the top end, of a niche processor. And I'm comparing to the other top end, niche processors. Almost no one is going to deploy 128 thread single proc Epycs, it's more cores than most companies can use, while having huge licensing implications.
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Microsoft Announce Enhanced Version of Ubuntu 18.04 for Hyper-V
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@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Microsoft Announce Enhanced Version of Ubuntu 18.04 for Hyper-V
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/hyper-v-ubuntu-1804-windows-integrationYeah that's great for devs or others wanting to run it as a VM on their Win10 desktop.
But it's not something I'd ever run as a server on Hyper-V Server.
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@obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Microsoft Announce Enhanced Version of Ubuntu 18.04 for Hyper-V
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/hyper-v-ubuntu-1804-windows-integrationYeah that's great for devs or others wanting to run it as a VM on their Win10 desktop.
But it's not something I'd ever run as a server on Hyper-V Server.
Why not? I've run Ubuntu on Hyper-V and had no trouble with it. It's been a while though.
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@obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Microsoft Announce Enhanced Version of Ubuntu 18.04 for Hyper-V
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/hyper-v-ubuntu-1804-windows-integrationYeah that's great for devs or others wanting to run it as a VM on their Win10 desktop.
But it's not something I'd ever run as a server on Hyper-V Server.
I use it for any Unifi DVR or Unifi Wireless Controller. The only issue is the copy and paste between Hyperv and Ubuntu.
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@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Microsoft Announce Enhanced Version of Ubuntu 18.04 for Hyper-V
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/hyper-v-ubuntu-1804-windows-integrationYeah that's great for devs or others wanting to run it as a VM on their Win10 desktop.
But it's not something I'd ever run as a server on Hyper-V Server.
Why not? I've run Ubuntu on Hyper-V and had no trouble with it. It's been a while though.
Because you'd want Ubuntu Server instead, not a Desktop OS, if you go the Ubuntu route.
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@obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Microsoft Announce Enhanced Version of Ubuntu 18.04 for Hyper-V
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/hyper-v-ubuntu-1804-windows-integrationYeah that's great for devs or others wanting to run it as a VM on their Win10 desktop.
But it's not something I'd ever run as a server on Hyper-V Server.
Why not? I've run Ubuntu on Hyper-V and had no trouble with it. It's been a while though.
Because you'd want Ubuntu Server instead, not a Desktop OS, if you go the Ubuntu route.
But I wanted a desktop OS.... /pout. lol.
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@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Microsoft Announce Enhanced Version of Ubuntu 18.04 for Hyper-V
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/hyper-v-ubuntu-1804-windows-integrationYeah that's great for devs or others wanting to run it as a VM on their Win10 desktop.
But it's not something I'd ever run as a server on Hyper-V Server.
Why not? I've run Ubuntu on Hyper-V and had no trouble with it. It's been a while though.
I agree, other than Ubuntu not being my favourite distro for them to have done this with, seems like great stuff to me.
VDI with Ubuntu. I'm literally doing VDI with Fedora while I'm writing this. So I certainly see the value. I'm just doing Fedora on KVM, but the ideas are the same.
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@obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Microsoft Announce Enhanced Version of Ubuntu 18.04 for Hyper-V
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/hyper-v-ubuntu-1804-windows-integrationYeah that's great for devs or others wanting to run it as a VM on their Win10 desktop.
But it's not something I'd ever run as a server on Hyper-V Server.
Why not? I've run Ubuntu on Hyper-V and had no trouble with it. It's been a while though.
Because you'd want Ubuntu Server instead, not a Desktop OS, if you go the Ubuntu route.
VDI?
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Rocket and NextCloud Integration Announced!
@jospoortvliet you should talk to your counterpart at Rocket.chat and get them in here, too. Loads of Rocket.Chat users in this community, almost as many as NextCloud.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Rocket and NextCloud Integration Announced!
@jospoortvliet you should talk to your counterpart at Rocket.chat and get them in here, too. Loads of Rocket.Chat users in this community, almost as many as NextCloud.
Loads
That is quite a stretch. There is you and a couple others. no one else.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Not a fan of this, except for very small sites where I cannot run something like a Pi-Hole easily.
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