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    Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

      @bbigford said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

      The reason for Meraki is central management. This client is spread across many states. I've been fortunate in the past to see their MSP setup; it's amazing and I might like to get back to it.

      That's not a reason. Ubiquiti already has that. Meraki doesn't offer anything special there.

      UNMS right?

      https://unms.com/

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

        @scottalanmiller said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

        @bbigford said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

        The reason for Meraki is central management. This client is spread across many states. I've been fortunate in the past to see their MSP setup; it's amazing and I might like to get back to it.

        That's not a reason. Ubiquiti already has that. Meraki doesn't offer anything special there.

        UNMS right?

        https://unms.com/

        Yes.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

          @bbigford said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

          We've been replacing all client Cisco ASAs with Barracuda F18s this last year. Their price for features is really enticing.

          What price is enticing? As I'd consider them not even remotely on par with Ubiquiti security at $45, unless they are around $2 a unit, what makes an insecure useless device with a wide open back door and a company that doesn't believe in security behind it enticing?

          You are not comparing the same things. So just stop.

          I totally agree with never using Barracuda though because of their poor security history.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            I wonder what their announcement is about.

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            • momurdaM
              momurda @DustinB3403
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              @dustinb3403 Ubiquiti in SPAAAAACE

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @momurda
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                @momurda said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                @dustinb3403 Ubiquiti in SPAAAAACE

                Or they forgot a guy was floating around their satellites and just wanted to announce they left a person up there to die. . .

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @dustinb3403 said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                  @bbigford said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                  The reason for Meraki is central management. This client is spread across many states. I've been fortunate in the past to see their MSP setup; it's amazing and I might like to get back to it.

                  That's not a reason. Ubiquiti already has that. Meraki doesn't offer anything special there.

                  UNMS right?

                  https://unms.com/

                  Yup, might not be quite as full features as the Meraki option, but it is free and private and works very well and since it offers terminal access now, it can do anything.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                    @bbigford said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                    We've been replacing all client Cisco ASAs with Barracuda F18s this last year. Their price for features is really enticing.

                    What price is enticing? As I'd consider them not even remotely on par with Ubiquiti security at $45, unless they are around $2 a unit, what makes an insecure useless device with a wide open back door and a company that doesn't believe in security behind it enticing?

                    You are not comparing the same things. So just stop.

                    I totally agree with never using Barracuda though because of their poor security history.

                    They don't have to be the same things. One is good and adds security. One is crap and makes you insecure. If the goal is security, that one claims to be a joke of a UTM and the other just a solid secure firewall, doesn't really matter.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                      @dustinb3403 said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                      I wonder what their announcement is about.

                      0_1531337635847_chrome_2018-07-11_15-33-34.png

                      Where did you get that image, because the UNMS Alpha group is not talking about version 14 yet.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                        @jaredbusch said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                        @dustinb3403 said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                        I wonder what their announcement is about.

                        0_1531337635847_chrome_2018-07-11_15-33-34.png

                        Where did you get that image, because the UNMS Alpha group is not talking about version 14 yet.

                        Right on their website. . . unms.com

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                          @dustinb3403 said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                          @jaredbusch said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                          @dustinb3403 said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                          I wonder what their announcement is about.

                          0_1531337635847_chrome_2018-07-11_15-33-34.png

                          Where did you get that image, because the UNMS Alpha group is not talking about version 14 yet.

                          Right on their website. . . unms.com

                          I have never once went there, always unms.ubnt.com

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
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                            Ah, I see it way down on the bottom..

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              Weird that they are announcing something for 0.14 when 0.13 is not even in alpha yet.

                              In the private UNMS (Alpha) group on their community, there is nothing about 0.14 and only 0.13 for "Early August" as noted right above the space man on the website.

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                                StorageNinja Vendor @JaredBusch
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                                @jaredbusch said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                                @bbigford said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                                The reason for Meraki is central management. This client is spread across many states. I've been fortunate in the past to see their MSP setup; it's amazing and I might like to get back to it.

                                That's not a reason. Ubiquiti already has that. Meraki doesn't offer anything special there.

                                UNMS right?

                                https://unms.com/

                                Yes.

                                0_1531337403067_7b328766-584d-4002-b4c6-4e331a16ed5d-image.png

                                That can't manage switches or AP's though right? One of the selling points on Meraki is it can do the entire "stack" in a single UI/management tool.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @StorageNinja
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                                  @storageninja

                                  From their website.

                                  Ubiquiti Network Management System (beta)
                                  We invite you to use our new free Ubiquiti Network Management System. You can simply configure, monitor, upgrade, and back up your UBNT devices. Add your routers and switches. You can include your wireless equipment and optical GPON devices as well. And why stop there. You can even manage your client APs with ease. Management of all devices in a single application: UNMS.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by DustinB3403

                                    it manages the entire stack.

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                                      Francesco Provino
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                                      The Ubiquiti is not an UTM in any way. In that space, the leader is Fortinet. No one can beat their price/performance for what they do. I use Ubiquiti in many places, but when a real UTM is needed I choose Fortinet.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @Francesco Provino
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                                        @francesco-provino said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                                        The Ubiquiti is not an UTM in any way. In that space, the leader is Fortinet. No one can beat their price/performance for what they do. I use Ubiquiti in many places, but when a real UTM is needed I choose Fortinet.

                                        Key word in that is need. When do you ever need all of your network security provided by a single appliance? If they did a better job, or didn't have much lower priced competition, then they'd make a lot more sense.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Francesco Provino
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                                          @francesco-provino said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                                          The Ubiquiti is not an UTM in any way.

                                          No, but it's more of a security device than the Barracuda is, which is the point. An insecure UTM has no purpose.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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                                            @storageninja said in Barracuda vs Meraki - firewalls:

                                            That can't manage switches or AP's though right? One of the selling points on Meraki is it can do the entire "stack" in a single UI/management tool.

                                            Switches, yes. APs, no, you use Unifi for that. Very similar.

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