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      thanksajdotcom @technobabble
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      @technobabble said:

      @ajstringham said:

      The HP Photosmarts really aren't business printers. If you're a photography studio, your printer should be using at least 8 cartridges, like the Canon Pixma Pro 9000 Mark II or Pro 100. For a business doing 1,000 pages/month, they must be replacing the 564 black twice a month! That printer takes 5 cartridges, and unless they are doing photos, it's a COMPLETE waste.

      The Brother MFC-9970CDW is a phenomenal unit.
      http://www.brother-usa.com/MFC/ModelDetail/4/MFC9970CDW/Overview#.UlbroFDbM_T

      The TN-315 will get you about 6,000 pages out of a black and something like 4,000 and change out of each color. I think the drum life is 25,000 pages but it might be 30,000. Either way, it's by far one of the most cost effective color lasers on the market. Now, if you want to try something a little different, the HP OfficeJet Pro X576DW would be another excellent choice. Upfront cost is about the same as the Brother and it's actually even more efficient than the Brother. It's inkjet but not like most inkjets. Without getting into all the details, it's one of the fastest printers on the market, bar none. Over 9,000 pages/black cartridge and 4-5,000/color (mind is a bit hazy on the exact number). I know the black is rated at 9,200 pages/cartridge but whatever. Either of those would be a great option.

      My personal opinion is the Brother. HP includes so much freaking bloatware with their printers, ALL their printers, now that it gets quite irritating. The Brother is a much cleaner install.

      Small businesses usually shop at Staples and Best Buy and buy consumer products. So I am never surprised to see Photosmart printers.

      Great info about the toner and drum, thanks!

      Best HP B&W printer only I have ever seen is the HP LaserJet P2035 Printer

      Yes...HP has lots of crapware except for the above printer when you use the certain HP driver set, I forget the name.

      The mistake a lot of businesses make is they don't do their homework. Staples sells the MFC-9970CDW, for example, but online only. So you order it and have it a couple days later. But a lot of SMBs won't buy it if they can't see it in the store first, which with the better units isn't something that will happen.

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        thanksajdotcom @StrongBad
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        @StrongBad said:

        What issues have you seen with third party ink? I know that it is rarely of the same quality, but it generally saves a lot of money. I have not seen anyone have printers hurt by it.

        Third-party ink is lower quality, shorter life AND is almost always put into remanned cartridges, which will ruin your printer almost 50% of the time. Maybe not the first time you use them, or even the second, but it will happen. The only time you don't use OEM ink is when you're using specialty ink, like edible ink, etc.

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        • StrongBadS
          StrongBad
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          50% of the time is pretty high. That means that every other cartridge ruins your printer. That seems high given the high rate of use of remanued cartridges and the low rate of failure.

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            Carnival Boy
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            We used to use third-party ink here. I had two leaks. It didn't destroy the printer, but it was a bit of a pain (and expense) to sort out. After the second time, I banned the use of them. I've never had HP ink cause a problem. Any printer downtime costs us money, so it just seems like false economy. Fine for home use, but not work.

            50% failure rate does seem a bit high though 😉

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              technobabble
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              OK...so back on track please....

              Anyone else want to toss a hat into ring?

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                thanksajdotcom @Carnival Boy
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                @Carnival-Boy said:

                We used to use third-party ink here. I had two leaks. It didn't destroy the printer, but it was a bit of a pain (and expense) to sort out. After the second time, I banned the use of them. I've never had HP ink cause a problem. Any printer downtime costs us money, so it just seems like false economy. Fine for home use, but not work.

                50% failure rate does seem a bit high though 😉

                It's not a 50% of cartridges. It's 50% of the time people use remanned cartridges, over the span of a year or two, it will ruin the printer, usually due to a leak. Also, most cartridges has a life on them, either by expiration or by use. So you're re-using a chip that's run it's life in a remanned cartridge. It's just bad juju...

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                  thanksajdotcom @technobabble
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                  @technobabble said:

                  OK...so back on track please....

                  Anyone else want to toss a hat into ring?

                  As far as I'm concerned, either the Brother MFC-9970CDW or the HP OfficeJet Pro X576DW are your only two good options.

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                    technobabble
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                    @Minion-Queen and @thanksaj I appreciate your help, however their budget is for something less expensive. Any ideas for the $300 range?

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                      thanksajdotcom @technobabble
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                      @technobabble said:

                      @Minion-Queen and @thanksaj I appreciate your help, however their budget is for something less expensive. Any ideas for the $300 range?

                      The HP Officejets or Epson Workforces would be the only options I can think.

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                      • Minion QueenM
                        Minion Queen
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                        I have heard that both of these are really good.

                        Brother MFC-J6720DW $225 on amazon
                        Brother MFC-J6920DW $260 on amazon

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                          thanksajdotcom @Minion Queen
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                          @Minion-Queen said:

                          I have heard that both of these are really good.

                          Brother MFC-J6720DW $225 on amazon
                          Brother MFC-J6920DW $260 on amazon

                          Those are solid. Same class as the ones I mentioned. However, they are HUGE! They can do 11x17 duplexed. It has an 11x17 flatbed.

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                          • Minion QueenM
                            Minion Queen
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                            Yes they are but they can do normal printing and we have a client or 2 with them and they really like them.

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                              thanksajdotcom @Minion Queen
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                              @Minion-Queen said:

                              Yes they are but they can do normal printing and we have a client or 2 with them and they really like them.

                              They are rock solid. I agree.

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                                technobabble @Minion Queen
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                                @Minion-Queen said:

                                I have heard that both of these are really good.

                                Brother MFC-J6720DW $225 on amazon
                                Brother MFC-J6920DW $260 on amazon

                                Sweet and she loves to buy on Amazon!

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                                  technobabble @Minion Queen
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                                  @Minion-Queen said:

                                  I have heard that both of these are really good.

                                  Brother MFC-J6720DW $225 on amazon

                                  Set this bad boy up yesterday along HP Pro series desktop. It was nice to see that the product is a Professional Series Inkjet. Much bigger than our previous Brother consumer printers, this one is close to the specs of the 2 we bought.

                                  Thanks for the recommendations!

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