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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      .... issue, whereas you're refusing to take what I told you as a fact because of your inexperience administering windows.

      You didn't tell me anything. We weren't discussing Windows, we were discussing the value of a blank video. You are just making up that I even responded about the Windows issue other than to point out over and over that I wasn't talking about it.

      And again, you're skipping facts. . . Clearly the video isn't blank, it goes blank for the 6 seconds I'm typing credentials into a UAC prompt.

      Sorry, just focusing on the relevant bit. The bit with the timing that was the only purpose of the video is blank.

      How obtuse can you be? This is SO simple. The video is useless. Admit it, move on instead of trying to blame other people for random things just bceause you failed to make a point.

      Wow you head is so far up your ass on this one.

      Because nothing you said is correct. UAC doesn't blank out video, there is a really trivial way to show this stuff (like I said.) Basically, when I say that Windows is easy you claim I'm an idiot and dont' know Windows and say that you can't show this stuff for whatever reason. I also point out that the timing isn't shown and you ignore the fundamental fact that you didn't show any useful timing. Everything you said, from UAC keeping the screen from being recorded, to the PS being fast (we think) to how long it takes to do, to what the video shows, was wrong.

      If you wanted to show how fast PS is, you'd have done something like this, which was no effort at all and shows four seconds AFTER a UAC...

      0_1523561637070_ps_with_uac.gif

      This is likely being accessed via RDP, thus the UAC prompt and the recording software are on different machines. Hence the ability to record it.

      It isn't possible to capture the UAC prompt from the same machine if you're recording from the machine the UAC prompt is opened on. So your entire argument still is wrong.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Any tool that can grab the screen like RDP, VNC, etc. uses desktop API hooks that can record UAC. So you don't need to be remote to do this. But since remote management is so common, it's often the quickest and easiest way to do it. But there is no limitation on recording the Windows desktop itself. Any limitation you are experiencing would be a result of the specific recording tool that you chose, rather than a limitation of Windows.

        Windows itself does not blank the screen nor block recording tools from capturing it. If it did, remote access would not be able t use UAC.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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          @dustinb3403 said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

          It isn't possible to capture the UAC prompt from the same machine if you're recording from the machine the UAC prompt is opened on. .

          Of course they can, which was my original point to you when you didn't record the screen. They have to be able to do that because it has to be a local tool that captures the video to send remotely. RDP, VNC, SC, TV, etc. are all local and capture that video. They aren't remote tools at the time of capture, they are local. That you think of them as purely remote is because of their common use case, not because of "what they are."

          RDP, for example, is nothing more (well a little more) than a streaming desktop recorder that plays live by default rather than recording to a file. But that's all it is. The ability to stream and record is the same.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            I didn't ask for this topic to be created, or forked.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              @scottalanmiller said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

              @dustinb3403 said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

              It isn't possible to capture the UAC prompt from the same machine if you're recording from the machine the UAC prompt is opened on. .

              Of course they can, which was my original point to you when you didn't record the screen. They have to be able to do that because it has to be a local tool that captures the video to send remotely. RDP, VNC, SC, TV, etc. are all local and capture that video. They aren't remote tools at the time of capture, they are local. That you think of them as purely remote is because of their common use case, not because of "what they are."

              RDP, for example, is nothing more (well a little more) than a streaming desktop recorder that plays live by default rather than recording to a file. But that's all it is. The ability to stream and record is the same.

              For fucks sake, one your as bad as David from Spiceworks.

              Two don't create or fork topics when you aren't asked too.

              Three prove to me, from a local machine you can record a UAC prompt from the same machine it is generated on. I've attempted this numerous times with different software and haven't ever had it work.

              The recording software must be remote from the system that the UAC prompt is generated on.

              FFS, go fix your toilet rather than harping on shit you're out of your depth on.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @dustinb3403 said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                @scottalanmiller said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                @dustinb3403 said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                It isn't possible to capture the UAC prompt from the same machine if you're recording from the machine the UAC prompt is opened on. .

                Of course they can, which was my original point to you when you didn't record the screen. They have to be able to do that because it has to be a local tool that captures the video to send remotely. RDP, VNC, SC, TV, etc. are all local and capture that video. They aren't remote tools at the time of capture, they are local. That you think of them as purely remote is because of their common use case, not because of "what they are."

                RDP, for example, is nothing more (well a little more) than a streaming desktop recorder that plays live by default rather than recording to a file. But that's all it is. The ability to stream and record is the same.

                For fucks sake, one your as bad as David from Spiceworks.

                Two don't create or fork topics when you aren't asked too.

                I asked me to. It wasn't appropriate for where it was.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @dustinb3403 said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                  The recording software must be remote from the system that the UAC prompt is generated on.

                  the video is grabbed and initially recorded locally. Think about it for a second, it's the only way that you could possibly get the video remote in the first place.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                    @dustinb3403 said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                    Three prove to me, from a local machine you can record a UAC prompt from the same machine it is generated on. I've attempted this numerous times with different software and haven't ever had it work.

                    Okay, but you are confusing "you didn't get it to work" with "it can't be done." Those aren't at all the same thing.

                    And WHY would you try to record it locally when it is SO trivially easy to grab it some other way and record it. The goal here was not a challenge on how to record a video in one really specific way, the purpose was to make a video that showed something. If the way you were doing it you felt coudln't do the job, why did you avoid doing it a way that was trivially easy and worked?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
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                      If the recording tool is running with elevated rights, it most certainly can see the UAC, unless it was horribly written.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                        @jaredbusch said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                        If the recording tool is running with elevated rights, it most certainly can see the UAC, unless it was horribly written.

                        And some can record without elevated rights, too. I just did that on the first try as well. Default tools might not do it, but ones in Chocolatey did. And as I wanted a GIF as putput, it "just worked".

                        There is a Windows setting to not make UAC unrecordable. You can just disable it.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          As much as this is an annoying topic in some ways, I've never done screen recording before so looking for cool and simple ways to do it, and tools to make it easy is interesting. Peek is an awesome tool. And screentogif isn't bad. I have tools ready to make easy screen vids now. I should have taken a moment to look into this before, it just rarely comes up.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Here is a screentogif sample run locally on the Windows 10 box. Not as nice or fast as Peek, but very similar. harder to grab the outside edge of the desktop, but does the trick.

                            0_1523565190722_uacrecording.gif

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              See how it can't quite grab the Start bar? There is likely a way around that, but I'd have to keep messing with it. But it gets most of the screen pretty well and compresses the GIF down really well.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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                                @dustinb3403 said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                                Two don't create or fork topics when you aren't asked too.

                                It’s to not too.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller No, we need a live video feed from behind you at the computer so we can see the physical screen and what you're doing!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                    @tim_g said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                                    @scottalanmiller No, we need a live video feed from behind you at the computer so we can see the physical screen and what you're doing!

                                    SAMTV, all SAM, all the time.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                                      @tim_g said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                                      @scottalanmiller No, we need a live video feed from behind you at the computer so we can see the physical screen and what you're doing!

                                      SAMTV, all SAM, all the time.

                                      Just no.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Like the Truman Show, but better.

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                                        • black3dynamiteB
                                          black3dynamite
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                                          Has anyone tried using VLC to desktop record?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                                            @black3dynamite said in Can't Figure Out How to Record Windows:

                                            Has anyone tried using VLC to desktop record?

                                            It can do that?

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