Paging Scott - KVM and management packages
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You said the below:
"KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard. So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed. I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?" But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."What management packages?
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@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
You said the below:
"KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard. So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed. I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?" But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."What management packages?
Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.
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@coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
You said the below:
"KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard. So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed. I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?" But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."What management packages?
Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.
Those are the best ones.
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@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
You said the below:
"KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard. So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed. I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?" But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."What management packages?
Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.
Those are the best ones.
They work very nicely. I hear oVirt is nice as well, haven't tried it out yet.
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@coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
You said the below:
"KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard. So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed. I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?" But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."What management packages?
Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.
Those are the best ones.
They work very nicely. I hear oVirt is nice as well, haven't tried it out yet.
I heard oVirt is good, but is a bit much to setup.
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@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
You said the below:
"KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard. So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed. I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?" But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."What management packages?
Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.
Those are the best ones.
They work very nicely. I hear oVirt is nice as well, haven't tried it out yet.
I heard oVirt is good, but is a bit much to setup.
It has been excellent in my experience with it so far.
It's actually very simple to set up.
I'll be making a guide for it too, it's currently in process.
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I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.
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@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.
So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.
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@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.
So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.
No, I started testing it on a single server...
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@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.
So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.
No, I started testing it on a single server...
Do you have an install guide too? Too lazy to search right now.
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@coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.
So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.
No, I started testing it on a single server...
Do you have an install guide too? Too lazy to search right now.
Here is the guide, it's 9 chapters!
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@coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.
So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.
No, I started testing it on a single server...
Do you have an install guide too? Too lazy to search right now.
You will need to use this one if you do the "Self Hosted" method: https://ovirt.org/documentation/self-hosted/Self-Hosted_Engine_Guide/
That's what I did in my test. But I'm going to end up adding another node or two, with the engine HA.
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@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
@tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:
I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.
So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.
No, I started testing it on a single server...
Do you have an install guide too? Too lazy to search right now.
Here is the guide, it's 9 chapters!
The chapters are short
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Ya I also pretty much use Virt-Manager/Virsh. I have a bare KVM server and an OpenStack box. I pretty much use Ansible/Terraform to spin up new instances on OpenStack.
