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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @brandon220
      last edited by

      @brandon220 Until you're comfortable writing your own scripts to get backups done in KVM, stick with what you know.

      KVM backups are conceptually very simple, but I've not found a good set of scripts for it yet.
      Process:

      • Create an external snapshot
      • Backup the .qcow2 main file using your normal backup tool
      • Remove the external snapshot

      I'm not super good with sed or awk, so I have issues getting a script that automatically backs up all KVM guests without having to enter each guest by name :frowning_face:

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22
        last edited by

        I think ultimately you should choose the Type-1 Hypervisor that you have the most experience with @brandon220. Both Hyper-V and KVM are good options.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @travisdh1
          last edited by

          @travisdh1 conceptually though this shouldn't be a difficult thing. It should already exist.

          How many places are only wanting to backup a single VM at a time?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            Now as a part of a separate conversation you may offer backup services for a few dollars a month and then need a script that allows granular control.

            But even Xen Orchestra has this control and you don't need to be typing away creating a script from literally nothing to do this. It's "built in" to XAPI and Xen Orchestra simply uses the API calls to do the job.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in Nextcloud scenario:

              @travisdh1 conceptually though this shouldn't be a difficult thing. It should already exist.

              There are scripts available for a propery configured system. My home lab box is not a properly configured system tho, and I had little choice in this particular matter (no LVM on OS install, FFS).

              How many places are only wanting to backup a single VM at a time?

              Considering that my home lab currently has 11 guests running, nobody.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @travisdh1
                last edited by

                @travisdh1 said in Nextcloud scenario:

                @dustinb3403 said in Nextcloud scenario:

                @travisdh1 conceptually though this shouldn't be a difficult thing. It should already exist.

                There are scripts available for a propery configured system. My home lab box is not a properly configured system tho, and I had little choice in this particular matter (no LVM on OS install, FFS).

                How many places are only wanting to backup a single VM at a time?

                Considering that my home lab currently has 11 guests running, nobody.

                You've got me beat. I only have 8 right now

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                • brandon220B
                  brandon220
                  last edited by

                  Honestly, I've not used KVM but thought this would be a great learning exercise. Been using Hyper-V for years. I prefer it over VMWare and Xen.

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                  • brandon220B
                    brandon220 @wirestyle22
                    last edited by

                    @wirestyle22 I could do everything I need on this host with Powershell. I hate Hyper-V Manager on non-domain joined hosts. More trouble than it is worth IMO. I miss 5-Nine being free.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      On a side note it looks like @olivier appears to have a way of avoiding upgrading and loosing the functionality as mentioned in 7.3

                      https://github.com/vatesfr/xo-web/issues/2564

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        Ignore everything @travisdh1 says about backups because he has no idea what he is talking about.

                        Of course it is easy to make a backup of a qcow2 and dump the VM confit to a XML file, it is 4 lines of code, but that doesn’t have dick to do with a good backup solution.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Is NC even something you want to back up in this manner? Why not back up from inside of the file system?

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                          • black3dynamiteB
                            black3dynamite
                            last edited by

                            https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/12/admin_manual/maintenance/backup.html

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                              last edited by

                              @black3dynamite said in Nextcloud scenario:

                              https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/12/admin_manual/maintenance/backup.html

                              Exactly. Nice and easy without imaging anything.

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                              • black3dynamiteB
                                black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by black3dynamite

                                @scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud scenario:

                                @black3dynamite said in Nextcloud scenario:

                                https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/12/admin_manual/maintenance/backup.html

                                Exactly. Nice and easy without imaging anything.

                                And with the help of salt or ansible to deploy Nextcloud, it’s even better.

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