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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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      @Tim_G said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

      I didn't realize Fedora did it like that. I prefer that method most. I'd rather put it where I want after a quick default install, than it put it somewhere I don't want it automatically.

      Yeah, this is much better than what CentOS does.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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        @Tim_G said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

        I didn't realize Fedora did it like that. I prefer that method most. I'd rather put it where I want after a quick default install, than it put it somewhere I don't want it automatically.

        I agree.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
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          I really dislike how CentOS 7 will take a large disk and create a 50GB setup for everything and then a separate partition to everything over 50 and moutn it in /home.

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          • Reid CooperR
            Reid Cooper @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

            I really dislike how CentOS 7 will take a large disk and create a 50GB setup for everything and then a separate partition to everything over 50 and moutn it in /home.

            That sounds like they expect that every large install is going to be used for end users to log into. Isn't that pretty unlikely?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Reid Cooper
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              @Reid-Cooper said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

              @JaredBusch said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

              I really dislike how CentOS 7 will take a large disk and create a 50GB setup for everything and then a separate partition to everything over 50 and moutn it in /home.

              That sounds like they expect that every large install is going to be used for end users to log into. Isn't that pretty unlikely?

              This is what CentOS 7 does by default with a 150GB VHDX.

              [root@bna-nc ~]# df -h
              Filesystem           Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
              /dev/mapper/cl-root   50G  1.9G   49G   4% /
              devtmpfs             439M     0  439M   0% /dev
              tmpfs                449M     0  449M   0% /dev/shm
              tmpfs                449M   46M  404M  11% /run
              tmpfs                449M     0  449M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
              /dev/sda2           1014M  174M  841M  18% /boot
              /dev/sda1            200M  9.5M  191M   5% /boot/efi
              /dev/mapper/cl-home   97G  6.5G   91G   7% /home
              tmpfs                 90M     0   90M   0% /run/user/0
              
              [root@bna-nc ~]# pvdisplay
                --- Physical volume ---
                PV Name               /dev/sda3
                VG Name               cl
                PV Size               148.80 GiB / not usable 2.00 MiB
                Allocatable           yes
                PE Size               4.00 MiB
                Total PE              38093
                Free PE               1
                Allocated PE          38092
                PV UUID               5YZ3rY-LPgV-W0Vi-LoOm-5byv-PdwA-iPaJvP
              
              [root@bna-nc ~]# vgdisplay
                --- Volume group ---
                VG Name               cl
                System ID
                Format                lvm2
                Metadata Areas        1
                Metadata Sequence No  4
                VG Access             read/write
                VG Status             resizable
                MAX LV                0
                Cur LV                3
                Open LV               3
                Max PV                0
                Cur PV                1
                Act PV                1
                VG Size               148.80 GiB
                PE Size               4.00 MiB
                Total PE              38093
                Alloc PE / Size       38092 / 148.80 GiB
                Free  PE / Size       1 / 4.00 MiB
                VG UUID               fuOf2r-zmeW-gCxG-b8MX-9JQ2-m3RG-S2Y2mh
              
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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @Reid Cooper
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                @Reid-Cooper said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                @JaredBusch said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                I really dislike how CentOS 7 will take a large disk and create a 50GB setup for everything and then a separate partition to everything over 50 and moutn it in /home.

                That sounds like they expect that every large install is going to be used for end users to log into. Isn't that pretty unlikely?

                That's rarely the case now (at least in my recent personal experience)... maybe 10 years ago it was more likely.

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                • Reid CooperR
                  Reid Cooper @Obsolesce
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                  @Tim_G said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                  @Reid-Cooper said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                  @JaredBusch said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                  I really dislike how CentOS 7 will take a large disk and create a 50GB setup for everything and then a separate partition to everything over 50 and moutn it in /home.

                  That sounds like they expect that every large install is going to be used for end users to log into. Isn't that pretty unlikely?

                  That's rarely the case now (at least in my recent personal experience)... maybe 10 years ago it was more likely.

                  Maybe 20 years ago. 🙂

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce
                    last edited by Obsolesce

                    I seen that in Fedora 27 NetInstall, it doesn't create a /home partition automatically. It only does the following by default:

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                    I found RedHat's partitioning recommendations, and it recommends a separate /home partition with the follow minimum sizes. Be sure to look at the note below, as I think that's a great way to go about it.

                    0_1515608352186_21f85509-21c7-431d-be32-2df1c3a525c5-image.png

                    If you assign all extra space to /home, and then later you run out of room in /, then you'll wish you'll had more available.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @tim_g said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                      I seen that in Fedora 27 NetInstall, it doesn't create a /home partition automatically. It only does the following by default:

                      0_1515608235923_bcfa5e5b-cf5f-4eb1-b690-2fe9b1938607-image.png

                      I found RedHat's partitioning recommendations, and it recommends a separate /home partition with the follow minimum sizes. Be sure to look at the note below, as I think that's a great way to go about it.

                      0_1515608352186_21f85509-21c7-431d-be32-2df1c3a525c5-image.png

                      If you assign all extra space to /home, and then later you run out of room in /, then you'll wish you'll had more available.

                      Yeah, splitting off /home comes from another era and what is today a very rare use case that almost never comes up. Reducing space in / so that you don't overfill a directory that is essentially never used is pretty silly.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                        @tim_g said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                        I seen that in Fedora 27 NetInstall, it doesn't create a /home partition automatically. It only does the following by default:

                        0_1515608235923_bcfa5e5b-cf5f-4eb1-b690-2fe9b1938607-image.png

                        I found RedHat's partitioning recommendations, and it recommends a separate /home partition with the follow minimum sizes. Be sure to look at the note below, as I think that's a great way to go about it.

                        0_1515608352186_21f85509-21c7-431d-be32-2df1c3a525c5-image.png

                        If you assign all extra space to /home, and then later you run out of room in /, then you'll wish you'll had more available.

                        Yeah, splitting off /home comes from another era and what is today a very rare use case that almost never comes up. Reducing space in / so that you don't overfill a directory that is essentially never used is pretty silly.

                        I like production data in it's own partition.. whether it's /data or in /home depending on the situation.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce
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                          I see some that don't have a separate /home partition, and some that do.

                          I've never actually ran into any issues upgrading those that do not have a separate /home partition. So I don't really see that as a reason to justify having a separate partition.

                          I feels it's so much easier to give all your extra space to /, and not have a separate /home partition.

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                          • black3dynamiteB
                            black3dynamite @Obsolesce
                            last edited by black3dynamite

                            @tim_g said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                            I seen that in Fedora 27 NetInstall, it doesn't create a /home partition automatically. It only does the following by default:

                            0_1515608235923_bcfa5e5b-cf5f-4eb1-b690-2fe9b1938607-image.png

                            I found RedHat's partitioning recommendations, and it recommends a separate /home partition with the follow minimum sizes. Be sure to look at the note below, as I think that's a great way to go about it.

                            0_1515608352186_21f85509-21c7-431d-be32-2df1c3a525c5-image.png

                            If you assign all extra space to /home, and then later you run out of room in /, then you'll wish you'll had more available.

                            It won't create a /home partition if you don't have enough storage space. 20GiB virtual disk will most certainly exclude a /home partition.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce
                              last edited by Obsolesce

                              This is how I'm going to set up the next LAMP VM. I don't feel it's necessary to have a separate /home partition. It's easy enough to upgrade from Fedora 27 to the next and to the next, without any data loss due to lack of a separate /home or /data partition.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                                This is how I'm going to set up the next LAMP VM. I don't feel it's necessary to have a separate /home partition. It's easy enough to upgrade from Fedora 27 to the next and to the next, without any data loss due to lack of a separate /home or /data partition.

                                0_1515609366985_f4fc79f0-b063-4250-b6fe-e56eeb42d82f-image.png

                                My LAMP boxes don't have separate /home either.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  If you type some large number in the box for the / partition and then click the update button, it auto sizes to max.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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                                    @jaredbusch said in How Does Fedora 25 Split Large Filesystems:

                                    If you type some large number in the box for the / partition and then click the update button, it auto sizes to max.

                                    Yeah, that's how I got it to say 144.84. If I did it myself, it'd be a nice round number.

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