Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller"
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@dashrender said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@wirestyle22 said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
If companies like LiquidSky are successful in enabling low cost linux desktops to play any game ($100 desktop playing the highest of high-end games), then I can see a huge resurgence--relatively speaking. Gaming is one of the reasons people won't move from windows even with a lot of games making Linux ports. Just my opinion though, could be wrong.
$100??? What kind of crap graphics is in that?
Just enough to RDP into the LiquidSky machine
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@wirestyle22 said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@dashrender said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@wirestyle22 said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
If companies like LiquidSky are successful in enabling low cost linux desktops to play any game ($100 desktop playing the highest of high-end games), then I can see a huge resurgence--relatively speaking. Gaming is one of the reasons people won't move from windows even with a lot of games making Linux ports. Just my opinion though, could be wrong.
$100??? What kind of crap graphics is in that?
Just enough to RDP into the LiquidSky machine
Have you used the service yet? Given the wikipedia page is a BS PR blurb that is marked for deletion I am curious about the actual claims...
I would imagine you could accomplish everything they are doing with RemoteFX and the latest GPU virtualization support.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiquidSky
From the article:
LiquidSky's key features include:
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30ms minimum latency (depends on ISP and user distance from data center)
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The ability to install any games the user has purchased.
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State of the art technology to keep up with the latest games.
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Lightning fast internet speeds, with 10GB per second downloads and 100MB per second uploads.
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Secure storage solutions, which the company dubs "SkyStorage"
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The service delivers users a virtual computer running a customized version of Windows Server 2016, which has been preloaded with essential apps such as a web browser. The computer also comes preloaded with major game distribution platforms such as Steam, Origin, and the Blizzard App.
How is that again?
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I looked at that LiquidSky thing, but on briefly. I can't imagine playing something with double ping. That seems crazy. Especially paying for something like that, it's so expensive.
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It does seem to have its on client, not just Microsoft Desktop.
Given the history of these kinds of things I would think anything significant would come directly from Nvidia. The last startup that was led by a crazy young CEO shut down and sold the IP for $1 to another company he started. Which, I always thought was just a scam.
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@wirestyle22 are you using, can you vouch?
Would be nervous to login with my kids steam credentials to try, trying to work out in me head how this would be setup.
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I considered trying it was it was Windows only which seemed insane to me as peole with Windows can already play the games without the service, it's people with Linux that would benefit most. As my only Windows machine is my Steam machine, I didn't see any reason to keep looking at it.
The price is so high, without a super cheap local computer option to use it with, it makes no sense to me.
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@bigbear said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@wirestyle22 are you using, can you vouch?
Would be nervous to login with my kids steam credentials to try, trying to work out in me head how this would be setup.
I have used it and am in direct contact with one of the devs if you guys have questions. Any of the normal games I play felt fantastic (r6 siege, street fighter 5, battlerite, divinity original sin 2). They use an algorithm for keyboard and mouse latency that is apparently fantastic. With that said there are issues with some games I've heard of but have not experienced. Doom was one of them, which I haven't played.
You can create a new steam account as they have locally installed demos you can play if you're nervous. One of my good friends works for the company, although he's not the dev I know.
I agree with @scottalanmiller. Low cost Linux desktops are where it will really shine
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@wirestyle22 What about real massive multiplayer games like WoW or PUG types?
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@tim_g said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@wirestyle22 What about real massive multiplayer games like WoW or PUG types?
WoW's latency algorithms were really amazing when they first launched. I was able to play on some really shitty dialup and still participate in most of the action. I doubt you'd see much of a difference.
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@tim_g said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@wirestyle22 What about real massive multiplayer games like WoW or PUG types?
Wow was 100% normal. I don't own pubg. I was surprised r6 siege played so well. fps are usually the biggest problems with something like this
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For me it's not the FPS, so long as it's over 30, which is not hard by any means.
My problem is latency. I could easily play over TeamViewer for example... but connection speed and latency are major issues.
How is this different?
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@tim_g said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
For me it's not the FPS, so long as it's over 30, which is not hard by any means.
My problem is latency. I could easily play over TeamViewer for example... but connection speed and latency are major issues.
How is this different?
I don't feel any latency at all. That's the difference
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@wirestyle22 said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@bigbear said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@wirestyle22 are you using, can you vouch?
Would be nervous to login with my kids steam credentials to try, trying to work out in me head how this would be setup.
I have used it and am in direct contact with one of the devs if you guys have questions. Any of the normal games I play felt fantastic (r6 siege, street fighter 5, battlerite, divinity original sin 2). They use an algorithm for keyboard and mouse latency that is apparently fantastic. With that said there are issues with some games I've heard of but have not experienced. Doom was one of them, which I haven't played.
You can create a new steam account as they have locally installed demos you can play if you're nervous. One of my good friends works for the company, although he's not the dev I know.
I agree with @scottalanmiller. Low cost Linux desktops are where it will really shine
As @scottalanmiller said being able to access from Linux or a cheap computer with No GPU would make sense.
I don’t think support anything other than what RDP supports, however I’m curious as to how they developed the client. Is there an SDK for RDP 10?
Also, it says $20/month is that unlimited hours? That doesn’t seem expensive at all to me, but maybe I’m reading it wrong....
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@bigbear said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@wirestyle22 said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@bigbear said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@wirestyle22 are you using, can you vouch?
Would be nervous to login with my kids steam credentials to try, trying to work out in me head how this would be setup.
I have used it and am in direct contact with one of the devs if you guys have questions. Any of the normal games I play felt fantastic (r6 siege, street fighter 5, battlerite, divinity original sin 2). They use an algorithm for keyboard and mouse latency that is apparently fantastic. With that said there are issues with some games I've heard of but have not experienced. Doom was one of them, which I haven't played.
You can create a new steam account as they have locally installed demos you can play if you're nervous. One of my good friends works for the company, although he's not the dev I know.
I agree with @scottalanmiller. Low cost Linux desktops are where it will really shine
As @scottalanmiller said being able to access from Linux or a cheap computer with No GPU would make sense.
I don’t think support anything other than what RDP supports, however I’m curious as to how they developed the client. Is there an SDK for RDP 10?
Also, it says $20/month is that unlimited hours? That doesn’t seem expensive at all to me, but maybe I’m reading it wrong....
That's for 80 hours a month.
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Given that ChromeOS runs on Linux I would say that it ushered in the "Year of the Linux Desktop". However, as most have said the trend that is developing is desktop agnostic. Doesn't matter what you run on the desktop as more and more things are becoming cloud based.
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@penguinwrangler said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
Given that ChromeOS runs on Linux I would say that it ushered in the "Year of the Linux Desktop". However, as most have said the trend that is developing is desktop agnostic. Doesn't matter what you run on the desktop as more and more things are becoming cloud based.
Unless you're athenaHealth - where they are going backwards and are currently spending untold millions making a new Windows desktop client because "browsers are to unstable, causing issue for our clients."
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@dashrender said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@penguinwrangler said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
Given that ChromeOS runs on Linux I would say that it ushered in the "Year of the Linux Desktop". However, as most have said the trend that is developing is desktop agnostic. Doesn't matter what you run on the desktop as more and more things are becoming cloud based.
Unless you're athenaHealth - where they are going backwards and are currently spending untold millions making a new Windows desktop client because "browsers are to unstable, causing issue for our clients."
Read as: "Our ancient software doesn't work with modern web protocols and our programmers are too incompetent to figure out a way for that to work, so we're going to waste a lot of money on something that no one wants because you literally can't go anywhere else."
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@coliver said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@dashrender said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
@penguinwrangler said in Why hasn’t The Year of the Linux Desktop happened yet? -"Christian F.K. Schaller":
Given that ChromeOS runs on Linux I would say that it ushered in the "Year of the Linux Desktop". However, as most have said the trend that is developing is desktop agnostic. Doesn't matter what you run on the desktop as more and more things are becoming cloud based.
Unless you're athenaHealth - where they are going backwards and are currently spending untold millions making a new Windows desktop client because "browsers are to unstable, causing issue for our clients."
Read as: "Our ancient software doesn't work with modern web protocols and our programmers are too incompetent to figure out a way for that to work, so we're going to waste a lot of money on something that no one wants because you literally can't go anywhere else."
Sounds good to me.
