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    • larsen161L
      larsen161
      last edited by larsen161

      @dustinb3403

      Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on
      /dev/disk2s2    38Ti   30Ti  8.1Ti    79%     3450784 4291516495    0%   /Volumes/Grandsister_Benny
      /dev/disk1s2    38Ti   26Ti   12Ti    69%     1177292 4293789987    0%   /Volumes/Grandmaster_Benny
      
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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        RAID 6 or maybe 60 will make the most sense, Im sure, to keep costs from exploding.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in File Server Upgrade Options:

          RAID 6 or maybe 60 will make the most sense, Im sure, to keep costs from exploding.

          assuming this gives the performance you need, this was my thinking.

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          • larsen161L
            larsen161 @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver expect to run out of storage in march. @scottalanmiller the raid 6 or 60 does seem like the most cost conscious option.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @larsen161
              last edited by

              @larsen161 said in File Server Upgrade Options:

              @coliver expect to run out of storage in march. @scottalanmiller the raid 6 or 60 does seem like the most cost conscious option.

              Yep, then RAID 6 or 60 is the way to go.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @larsen161
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                @larsen161 said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                @dustinb3403

                Filesystem       Size   Used Avail    Capacity iused      ifree                 %iused  Mounted on
                /dev/disk2s2    38Ti   30Ti   8.1Ti    79%       3450784 4291516495    0%         /Volumes/Grandsister_Benny
                /dev/disk1s2    38Ti   26Ti   12Ti     69%       1177292 4293789987    0%         /Volumes/Grandmaster_Benny
                

                Ok now it makes a bit more sense, the columns being misaligned had me confused for a second.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  I'd probably look at RAID60 at these scales.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @larsen161
                    last edited by

                    @larsen161 said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                    @coliver expect to run out of storage in march. @scottalanmiller the raid 6 or 60 does seem like the most cost conscious option.

                    And I agree inn superMicro chassis. Pretty much unbeatable.

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                    • larsen161L
                      larsen161 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller wow, supermicro has some impressive chassis. but ohh boy, their website design though....

                      perhaps something like the 24-bay, 4u SC846BE1C-R1K28B

                      do they offer pre-sales support or its via a reseller typically?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @larsen161
                        last edited by

                        @larsen161 said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                        @scottalanmiller wow, supermicro has some impressive chassis. but ohh boy, their website design though....

                        perhaps something like the 24-bay, 4u SC846BE1C-R1K28B

                        do they offer pre-sales support or its via a reseller typically?

                        Generally via reseller. I don't like their sales system, but I love their products. I wish that xByte would carry them.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @larsen161
                          last edited by

                          @larsen161 said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                          Goals
                          Run a 'proper' storage server OS
                          Migrate to more reliable RAID configuration
                          Upgrade storage capacity (expect to run out in March 2018)
                          Backup data
                          Support 6k video editing across a team of 12
                          Adding 10Gbps to server
                          Adding 10Gbps switch
                          Adding 10Gbps to clients

                          You can use any existing server you have, but get a decent RAID card, such as a H830 2GB nvcache.
                          Go to xbyte.com, and price out something like a Dell MD1400. You could build something nice with a bunch of NL SAS drives. This whole thing will run at 12gbps bandwidth. Hook your server up to 10gbps fiber switch.

                          It'll look like this:

                          client -> fiber switch -> server -> 12gbps SAS to MD1400 (and back)

                          You could probably do the whole thing for under 7k depending on how big the hard drives are and how many. If you threw in 12x 4TB NL SAS drives, it'll be under 7k most likely. You could RAID10 that.

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                          • larsen161L
                            larsen161
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                            Thoughts on a 45 Drives setup?

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @larsen161
                              last edited by

                              @larsen161 said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                              Thoughts on a 45 Drives setup?

                              Not that great generally. For how Backblaze uses them they're good, but really not nearly so reliable as a normal server.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @larsen161
                                last edited by

                                @larsen161 said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                                Thoughts on a 45 Drives setup?

                                Cheesy. Not for production use. Better than the B.B. Pods, but still not applicable to any SMB.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  http://www.smbitjournal.com/2016/10/smbs-must-stop-looking-to-backblaze-for-guidance/

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                                    http://www.smbitjournal.com/2016/10/smbs-must-stop-looking-to-backblaze-for-guidance/

                                    How is that not in my list of reference links yet? Is now.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                                      http://www.smbitjournal.com/2016/10/smbs-must-stop-looking-to-backblaze-for-guidance/

                                      How is that not in my list of reference links yet? Is now.

                                      One of those "it was repeated so many times on SW that it needed at article" articles.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                                        @travisdh1 said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                                        http://www.smbitjournal.com/2016/10/smbs-must-stop-looking-to-backblaze-for-guidance/

                                        How is that not in my list of reference links yet? Is now.

                                        One of those "it was repeated so many times on SW that it needed at article" articles.

                                        You have seen my collection of those, right?

                                        https://pastebin.com/RiZccgAE

                                        Yes, I keep them all around for quick and easy referencing.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre
                                          last edited by dafyre

                                          @scottalanmiller If you were building storage at the scale of something like a Backblaze pod, how would you do it?

                                          Seems like I asked this one time before, but I forget.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                            last edited by

                                            @dafyre said in File Server Upgrade Options:

                                            @scottalanmiller If you were building storage at the scale of something like a Backblaze pod, how would you do it?

                                            Seems like I asked this one time before, but I forget.

                                            You wouldn't, it's that simple. The BB Pod is just one tiny piece of a giant cluster. It only works as it is because it's a disposal cog in a bigger machine. If you wanted just "a pod", you just... don't. It's a dumb idea. You should never have a single point of failure that freaking large. It is too much to back up and restore all at once.

                                            You'd build a cluster of smaller storage devices, not a single monolithic one.

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