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    Understanding the Roles of the IT Generalist and Specialist

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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom
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      I doubt I'll ever be a specialist. Especially if my current decision to alter my career path sticks, I'll forever be a generalist, as far as IT is concerned.

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse
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        Over all I believe I fall into the Generalist field,.. but lean towards Specialist in some areas like desktops.

        Not only can I build a server, clone a desktop, build a website - I have been a event clean up technician (okay,.. dishwasher) Office space technician (aka grunt) and more.

        I've put a hand on a number of things over the years...

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          In a place like ML, wouldn't we expect to see primarily generalists? There are more dedicated resources for the specialist.

          This mass breath of knowledge is what drew me to SW in the first place.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            In a place like ML, wouldn't we expect to see primarily generalists? There are more dedicated resources for the specialist.

            This mass breath of knowledge is what drew me to SW in the first place.

            Oh yes, places like ML and SW you will find almost exclusively generalists. If you are a specialist you will likely have a "small" community focused on exactly the thing in which you are a specialist. Generally that would mean a vendor hosted community. If you are an Oracle DBA you will likely hang out in Oracle's own forums. If you are a Windows specialist, TechNet. If you are a Red Hat Linux guru, Red Hat has a community for you.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              In a place like ML, wouldn't we expect to see primarily generalists? There are more dedicated resources for the specialist.

              This mass breath of knowledge is what drew me to SW in the first place.

              Oh yes, places like ML and SW you will find almost exclusively generalists. If you are a specialist you will likely have a "small" community focused on exactly the thing in which you are a specialist. Generally that would mean a vendor hosted community. If you are an Oracle DBA you will likely hang out in Oracle's own forums. If you are a Windows specialist, TechNet. If you are a Red Hat Linux guru, Red Hat has a community for you.

              Plantronics, you have the Sounding Boards...lol

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              • C
                Carnival Boy
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                I'm a specialist of generality. Not really. I was a full-time Access developer for a couple of years, does that make me a specialist. There are also probably only a handful of people in the world that know our current ERP system as well as I do - does that make ma a specialist? I've been working on it for 15 years.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                  I'm a specialist of generality. Not really. I was a full-time Access developer for a couple of years, does that make me a specialist. There are also probably only a handful of people in the world that know our current ERP system as well as I do - does that make ma a specialist? I've been working on it for 15 years.

                  The question is not if you have focused on it, but do you focus on it. Do you do anything besides the ERP system? Then you are probably a generalist. A specialist would be 95% - 100% job role on one very focused thing, full time. Not hopping between things or mixing things. You mention multiple things in which you might be a specialist. If you think of more than one thing to mention, that probably answers your question.

                  For example, do you support desktops? Servers? Networking Gear? Applications? Each of those would be a specialist, if you combine them, you are a generalist.

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                    Carnival Boy
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                    I'm probably 90% ERP, so I'll go for generalist then.

                    Interesting what you said about managers having to manage people to be a manager. That's maybe a US thing. It's not the case in the UK - a manager manages but what he manages doesn't have to be people, it could be other things.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                      Interesting what you said about managers having to manage people to be a manager. That's maybe a US thing. It's not the case in the UK - a manager manages but what he manages doesn't have to be people, it could be other things.

                      What all are called managers then? Like are janitors "waste managers?"

                      There are specific, normally mocking, job titles that use manager now in the US but everyone knows what they mean and there is zero pretense. Like "office manager" is now a joke term for "secretary." It's actually a lesser title because it denotes someone putting on pretenses when they really just fetch coffee. Someone with the actual title of secretary is likely more senior.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        You really do 90% of your time on the single ERP system? That's a lot. That's only 40 minutes a day, or so, available for other tasks.

                        As an example, if this were an Epicor system, would you refer to yourself normally as an "Epicor Administrator"?

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                          Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          That's only 40 minutes a day, or so, available for other tasks.

                          That's why I do desktop support outside of work hours and write down people's passwords - I'm in a rush 🙂

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            That's only 40 minutes a day, or so, available for other tasks.

                            That's why I do desktop support outside of work hours and write down people's passwords - I'm in a rush 🙂

                            I would say so!

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                            • nadnerBN
                              nadnerB
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                              I specialise in the generalist field.

                              I like variety 🙂

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                                Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                What all are called managers then? Like are janitors "waste managers?"

                                Janitors are called caretakers over here. I think janitor is a cooler word. I suppose manager refers more to levels of general responsibility rather than specifically managing people.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
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                                  We use caretaker too but usual it means janitor plus handyman and usually for someone who lives on a campus like a school. We also use custodian.

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                                    Carnival Boy
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                                    If I ran my own company, I'd get rid of job titles altogether. Are they necessary? They massage egos, cause resentment, restrict flexibility and decrease the willingness to collaborate with colleagues or work in a more project orientated fashion. My job title is Systems Manager, I don't even know what that means!

                                    Note: I haven't really thought this policy through.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                                      Interesting what you said about managers having to manage people to be a manager. That's maybe a US thing. It's not the case in the UK - a manager manages but what he manages doesn't have to be people, it could be other things.

                                      What all are called managers then? Like are janitors "waste managers?"

                                      There are specific, normally mocking, job titles that use manager now in the US but everyone knows what they mean and there is zero pretense. Like "office manager" is now a joke term for "secretary." It's actually a lesser title because it denotes someone putting on pretenses when they really just fetch coffee. Someone with the actual title of secretary is likely more senior.

                                      This isn't always the case though. I small and perhaps medium physician offices, an Office Manager is like the CEO, runs the day to day operations of the office.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                                        If I ran my own company, I'd get rid of job titles altogether. Are they necessary? They massage egos, cause resentment, restrict flexibility and decrease the willingness to collaborate with colleagues or work in a more project orientated fashion. My job title is Systems Manager, I don't even know what that means!

                                        Note: I haven't really thought this policy through.

                                        Well at NTG we don't eliminate them but we do reduce them significantly. Management has titles, a few titles are required by law in the US. Not the specific titles, but similar ones (CEO, President, etc.) But the non-managers all have the same title.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          This isn't always the case though. I small and perhaps medium physician offices, an Office Manager is like the CEO, runs the day to day operations of the office.

                                          Still considered a secretary, though. Just someone at a secretary level and skill doing everything by physicians aren't often very bright.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            This isn't always the case though. I small and perhaps medium physician offices, an Office Manager is like the CEO, runs the day to day operations of the office.

                                            Still considered a secretary, though. Just someone at a secretary level and skill doing everything by physicians aren't often very bright.

                                            uhh.. hmm.. My office manager is definitely no secretary. She does run the day to day for the entire office. She may not be Michael Dell, but she's definitely not some slub who just answers the phone and files papers for everyone else.

                                            What is the person in charge of the Dr offices out there called, title wise? And I hope it's not Dr, that would be a waste of a medical degree.

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