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    • jmooreJ
      jmoore @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

      Sounding incompetent is never smart, boss or not. You don't want someone documenting your lack of understanding for when you go to HIS boss to ask for a promotion since YOUR boss doesn't know he's doing.

      I certainly get that and had no intention to imply that or put him on the spot. I just presented the wiki I had worked long and hard on to him then he asked if it was built on php which I answered yes to. You know the rest

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @jmoore
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        @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

        @dashrender said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

        Maybe he doesn't need to because he's the boss, and was just giving any excuse to make you go away

        You could be entirely right there Dash. Telling me php was insecure just tells me that whoever set it up did something wrong with whatever app it is working with.

        It tells you that he either doesn't know how any of it works, or he doesn't know what is plausible. Either way... he doesn't know enough to have a conversation about it and sound like he's aware of what you are discussing.

        Much like AshleyJR in the recent SW RAID thread. Huge thread about RAID, turns out he doesn't even know what RAID 1 is so where his math is coming from no one knows.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @jmoore
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          @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

          I certainly get that and had no intention to imply that or put him on the spot.

          Sounds like you didn't. His lack of basic knowledge in the area combined with wanting to push an agenda without adequate reasoning put him on the spot, most likely.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            • jmooreJ
              jmoore @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

              That's like saying "I don't like Ford because the last time I rode in one we went to a movie and I didn't enjoy it." Either he knows he's being insanely irrational or he REALLY doesn't know how this stuff works.

              Well i can't believe that he doesn't know how it works so he most likely just didn't like the idea for whatever reason and that was the first thing he thought of.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
                last edited by Obsolesce

                First of all, you can keep your internal documentation site, well... internal. No chance of pharma ads then!

                Second, I purposely moved away from mediawiki. I couldn't stand it anymore, and neither could anyone else.

                A wiki-style Wordpress site has been a godsend. Copy/paste in anything from clipboard... pics, screenshots, videos... even formatting from the web or Word. It's stupid easy and fast to make a very readable wiki page. What takes 5 minutes to do on our Wordpress wiki can take hours on mediawiki. That's not an exaggeration, I mean that literally.

                Third, Wordpress is EXTREMELY secure, more-so than almost every other platform out there. Millions and millions of sites are using it without any security issue at all. Only the people who don't properly secure and maintain it get victimized... and rightfully so!

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                • jmooreJ
                  jmoore @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                  It tells you that he either doesn't know how any of it works, or he doesn't know what is plausible. Either way... he doesn't know enough to have a conversation about it and sound like he's aware of what you are discussing.

                  Alright I understand that. You can't know about everything so no big deal. Was just hoping I wasn't making myself look foolish to management by presenting my idea. Thanks and appreciate the comments

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                  • jmooreJ
                    jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

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                    Love it!

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                    • GreyG
                      Grey @Obsolesce
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                      @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                      Third, Wordpress is EXTREMELY secure, more-so than almost every other platform out there. Millions and millions of sites are using it without any security issue at all. Only the people who don't properly secure and maintain it get victimized... and rightfully so!

                      http://www.cvedetails.com/product/4096/Wordpress-Wordpress.html?vendor_id=2337
                      hmmm....

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @jmoore
                        last edited by

                        @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                        Sounding incompetent is never smart, boss or not. You don't want someone documenting your lack of understanding for when you go to HIS boss to ask for a promotion since YOUR boss doesn't know he's doing.

                        I certainly get that and had no intention to imply that or put him on the spot. I just presented the wiki I had worked long and hard on to him then he asked if it was built on php which I answered yes to. You know the rest

                        I'm guessing Scott is write, he has no idea what those things are - and all he knew is that PHP was the old site, and he had ads and he was unhappy, so he put 1 + 1 together and said what he said...

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                          First of all, you can keep your internal documentation site, well... internal. No chance of pharma ads then!

                          Sure I get that. I had intended it be used by the organization and stay within the firewall so no chance of things like pharmaceutical ads

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @jmoore
                            last edited by

                            @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                            It tells you that he either doesn't know how any of it works, or he doesn't know what is plausible. Either way... he doesn't know enough to have a conversation about it and sound like he's aware of what you are discussing.

                            Alright I understand that. You can't know about everything so no big deal. Was just hoping I wasn't making myself look foolish to management by presenting my idea. Thanks and appreciate the comments

                            No, but there is a correct way to respond to things that you know and a way not to. Bluffing is not the way to do it.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @Grey
                              last edited by Obsolesce

                              @grey said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                              @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                              Third, Wordpress is EXTREMELY secure, more-so than almost every other platform out there. Millions and millions of sites are using it without any security issue at all. Only the people who don't properly secure and maintain it get victimized... and rightfully so!

                              http://www.cvedetails.com/product/4096/Wordpress-Wordpress.html?vendor_id=2337
                              hmmm....

                              Did you bother to look at any of those? They are all old vulnerabilities from versions of WordPress you should not be using anymore. If you get hit, your fault!

                              Edit: Literally, like every single one of them!

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                              • jmooreJ
                                jmoore @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                A wiki-style Wordpress site has been a godsend. Copy/paste in anything from clipboard... pics, screenshots, videos... even formatting from the web or Word. It's stupid easy and fast to make a very readable wiki page. What takes 5 minutes to do on our Wordpress wiki can take hours on mediawiki. That's not an exaggeration, I mean that literally.

                                Always willing to try new things. Do you remember any of the plugin names that made this "wiki-style" ?

                                Also I like mediawiki because it is much easier to navigate and get to the area you need than is Wordpress from what I have seen anyway. Thats why I chose a wiki for this project.

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                                • jmooreJ
                                  jmoore @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                  Did you bother to look at any of those? They are all old vulnerabilities from versions of WordPress you should not be using anymore. If you get hit, your fault!

                                  Yeah Wordpress has always been good to me. I have run 2 websites for years and never got hacked which is really a miracle because at first I had no idea what I was doing. The only problem I've had was hackers doing so many attempts at my log in pages and server root that sometimes the site would go down when the server ran out of memory. I had a small server though and after I researched the issue just saw that it was a misconfiguration from Apache which i long since fixed. No issues since then. Knock on lots of Wood!

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @jmoore
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                                    @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                    Always willing to try new things. Do you remember any of the plugin names that made this "wiki-style" ?

                                    Theme:
                                    WikiWP

                                    Plugins:
                                    Broken Link Checker
                                    Disable Comments
                                    OnePress Image Elevator
                                    Responsive Lightbox
                                    Table of Contents Plus
                                    TablePress
                                    TinyMCE Advanced

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                                    • jmooreJ
                                      jmoore @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                      @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                      Always willing to try new things. Do you remember any of the plugin names that made this "wiki-style" ?

                                      Theme:
                                      WikiWP

                                      Plugins:
                                      Broken Link Checker
                                      Disable Comments
                                      OnePress Image Elevator
                                      Responsive Lightbox
                                      Table of Contents Plus
                                      TablePress
                                      TinyMCE Advanced

                                      Thanks Tim! I want to look at those. Cool that its a theme

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        To keep your WP site secure:

                                        1. KEEP IT UPDATED, ALWAYS! THEME, PLUGINS, WP, EVERYTHING!!!
                                        2. Wordfence Security plugin
                                        3. Securi Security plugin

                                        Take the steps those plugins recommend to secure your WP site.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates
                                          last edited by stacksofplates

                                          I've always used Drupal. IMO probably the most secure and flexible CMF there is and built with PHP. Just sounds like someone making excuses.

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                                          • jmooreJ
                                            jmoore @stacksofplates
                                            last edited by

                                            @stacksofplates said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                            I've always used Drupal. IMO probably the most secure and flexible CMF there is and built with PHP. Just sounds like someone making excuses.

                                            Yeah tons of things are built with php. I've never tried Drupal but I suppose I will have to experiment sometime.

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