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    • jmooreJ
      jmoore
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      That would of course work if done right but it isn't because no one uses it including the IT department. It's last update was 3 years ago. So public folders were made for each department but each department can only see their own documentation. The public folders are not used either according to management.

      My idea for the wiki was have it available as an organizational resource where anyone with proper credentials can log in and edit/add information for their department that others could see but have special permissions for things that needed to stay within that department. I believed it was doable and an idea worth considering.

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      • EddieJenningsE
        EddieJennings @Dashrender
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        @dashrender said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

        i was wondering why you didn't setup media wiki on their own website too. 😛

        Ha! Not necessarily that, but just use whatever system is on the current site owned by the person putting the brakes on the project.

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        • jmooreJ
          jmoore @EddieJennings
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          @eddiejennings said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

          Ha! Not necessarily that, but just use whatever system is on the current site owned by the person putting the brakes on the project.

          Yes it would of course use the existing system as I don't want to invent the wheel again so to speak.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @jmoore
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            @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

            So as you can imagine I have a question if anyone knows. I don't see how PHP can be insecure and that vulnerable with as much infrastructure that uses it.

            This falls under "not a plausible excuse." He doesn't appear to really know what was a viable bluff and what would make him look foolish.

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            • NerdyDadN
              NerdyDad
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              Probably would have come back and asked him what he considers to be a secure technology to his vulnerability scans without sounding insubordinate. This way, you can sound like you're trying to be a team player and still help the company.

              What does he consider secure anyways? HTML5?

              Another thing is, if they are already in the network then they already have the upper hand.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                So as you can imagine I have a question if anyone knows. I don't see how PHP can be insecure and that vulnerable with as much infrastructure that uses it.

                This falls under "not a plausible excuse." He doesn't appear to really know what was a viable bluff and what would make him look foolish.

                Maybe he doesn't need to because he's the boss, and was just giving any excuse to make you go away

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                • jmooreJ
                  jmoore @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                  This falls under "not a plausible excuse." He doesn't appear to really know what was a viable bluff and what would make him look foolish.

                  Alright I get that. Could be right, I really don't know. I just don't think PHP being insecure should be a reason. He also said he never liked it since the last web guy installed Wordpress to play around and they ended up with pharmaceutical ads constantly. That is just the web guy not knowing how to harden Wordpress and Apache though and php has nothing to do with that.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @dashrender said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                    @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                    So as you can imagine I have a question if anyone knows. I don't see how PHP can be insecure and that vulnerable with as much infrastructure that uses it.

                    This falls under "not a plausible excuse." He doesn't appear to really know what was a viable bluff and what would make him look foolish.

                    Maybe he doesn't need to because he's the boss, and was just giving any excuse to make you go away

                    Sounding incompetent is never smart, boss or not. You don't want someone documenting your lack of understanding for when you go to HIS boss to ask for a promotion since YOUR boss doesn't know he's doing.

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                    • jmooreJ
                      jmoore @NerdyDad
                      last edited by

                      @nerdydad said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                      Probably would have come back and asked him what he considers to be a secure technology to his vulnerability scans without sounding insubordinate. This way, you can sound like you're trying to be a team player and still help the company.

                      What does he consider secure anyways? HTML5?

                      Another thing is, if they are already in the network then they already have the upper hand.

                      Well I was trying to be a team player mostly and trying to do something that I really thought was a good idea to show people I can think about an issue they have complained about before and come up with a solution. I would like to be an admin someday so I try to learn as much as I can and think about my organization's issues.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                        @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                        So as you can imagine I have a question if anyone knows. I don't see how PHP can be insecure and that vulnerable with as much infrastructure that uses it.

                        This falls under "not a plausible excuse." He doesn't appear to really know what was a viable bluff and what would make him look foolish.

                        No he knows. His internal built website is more secure than all of PHP......

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                          @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                          He also said he never liked it since the last web guy installed Wordpress to play around and they ended up with pharmaceutical ads constantly. That is just the web guy not knowing how to harden Wordpress and Apache though and php has nothing to do with that.

                          That's like saying "I don't like Ford because the last time I rode in one we went to a movie and I didn't enjoy it." Either he knows he's being insanely irrational or he REALLY doesn't know how this stuff works.

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                          • jmooreJ
                            jmoore @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                            Maybe he doesn't need to because he's the boss, and was just giving any excuse to make you go away

                            You could be entirely right there Dash. Telling me php was insecure just tells me that whoever set it up did something wrong with whatever app it is working with.

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                            • jmooreJ
                              jmoore @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                              Sounding incompetent is never smart, boss or not. You don't want someone documenting your lack of understanding for when you go to HIS boss to ask for a promotion since YOUR boss doesn't know he's doing.

                              I certainly get that and had no intention to imply that or put him on the spot. I just presented the wiki I had worked long and hard on to him then he asked if it was built on php which I answered yes to. You know the rest

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                @dashrender said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                Maybe he doesn't need to because he's the boss, and was just giving any excuse to make you go away

                                You could be entirely right there Dash. Telling me php was insecure just tells me that whoever set it up did something wrong with whatever app it is working with.

                                It tells you that he either doesn't know how any of it works, or he doesn't know what is plausible. Either way... he doesn't know enough to have a conversation about it and sound like he's aware of what you are discussing.

                                Much like AshleyJR in the recent SW RAID thread. Huge thread about RAID, turns out he doesn't even know what RAID 1 is so where his math is coming from no one knows.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                  @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                  I certainly get that and had no intention to imply that or put him on the spot.

                                  Sounds like you didn't. His lack of basic knowledge in the area combined with wanting to push an agenda without adequate reasoning put him on the spot, most likely.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    • jmooreJ
                                      jmoore @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                      That's like saying "I don't like Ford because the last time I rode in one we went to a movie and I didn't enjoy it." Either he knows he's being insanely irrational or he REALLY doesn't know how this stuff works.

                                      Well i can't believe that he doesn't know how it works so he most likely just didn't like the idea for whatever reason and that was the first thing he thought of.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce
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                                        First of all, you can keep your internal documentation site, well... internal. No chance of pharma ads then!

                                        Second, I purposely moved away from mediawiki. I couldn't stand it anymore, and neither could anyone else.

                                        A wiki-style Wordpress site has been a godsend. Copy/paste in anything from clipboard... pics, screenshots, videos... even formatting from the web or Word. It's stupid easy and fast to make a very readable wiki page. What takes 5 minutes to do on our Wordpress wiki can take hours on mediawiki. That's not an exaggeration, I mean that literally.

                                        Third, Wordpress is EXTREMELY secure, more-so than almost every other platform out there. Millions and millions of sites are using it without any security issue at all. Only the people who don't properly secure and maintain it get victimized... and rightfully so!

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                                        • jmooreJ
                                          jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                          It tells you that he either doesn't know how any of it works, or he doesn't know what is plausible. Either way... he doesn't know enough to have a conversation about it and sound like he's aware of what you are discussing.

                                          Alright I understand that. You can't know about everything so no big deal. Was just hoping I wasn't making myself look foolish to management by presenting my idea. Thanks and appreciate the comments

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                                          • jmooreJ
                                            jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

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                                            Love it!

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