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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

      @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

      I call up said company

      "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

      "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

      You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

      No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

      The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

      It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

      Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

      I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

      If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

      yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

        @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

        I call up said company

        "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

        "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

        You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

        No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

        The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

        It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

        Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

        I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

        If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

        yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

        I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

          @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

          I call up said company

          "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

          "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

          You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

          No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

          The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

          It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

          Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

          I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

          If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

          yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

          I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

          replace it as Scott said with

          Role: abc

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

            @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

            I call up said company

            "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

            "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

            You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

            No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

            The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

            It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

            Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

            I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

            If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

            yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

            It's specific, but maybe not specific to what he did.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

              @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

              @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

              I call up said company

              "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

              "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

              You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

              No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

              The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

              It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

              Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

              I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

              If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

              yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

              I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

              You can't leave that spot blank. Were you meaning to ask about the role and said title instead? You leave off the title, but never leave off the role.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                I call up said company

                "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                replace it as Scott said with

                Role: abc

                No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                  I call up said company

                  "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                  "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                  You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                  No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                  The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                  It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                  Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                  I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                  If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                  yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                  I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                  You can't leave that spot blank. Were you meaning to ask about the role and said title instead? You leave off the title, but never leave off the role.

                  0_1499887686323_fleeb.png

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                    I call up said company

                    "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                    "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                    You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                    No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                    The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                    It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                    Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                    I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                    If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                    yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                    I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                    replace it as Scott said with

                    Role: abc

                    No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

                    What is the role of IT Generalist?

                    wirestyle22W scottalanmillerS 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                      I call up said company

                      "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                      "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                      You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                      No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                      The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                      It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                      Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                      I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                      If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                      yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                      I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                      You can't leave that spot blank. Were you meaning to ask about the role and said title instead? You leave off the title, but never leave off the role.

                      0_1499887686323_fleeb.png

                      Exactly.. do NOT do that.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                        I call up said company

                        "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                        "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                        You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                        No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                        The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                        It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                        Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                        I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                        If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                        yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                        I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                        replace it as Scott said with

                        Role: abc

                        No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

                        What is the role of IT Generalist?

                        I struggle with this question

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                          I call up said company

                          "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                          "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                          You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                          No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                          The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                          It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                          Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                          I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                          If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                          yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                          I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                          replace it as Scott said with

                          Role: abc

                          No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

                          What is the role of IT Generalist?

                          What do you mean? It's what you do. It's "all the IT" stuff. It's IT without a specific focus.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller So you leave that blank and EXPLAIN the role, correct? That is what you are saying?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @breffni-potter said in Feedback on Resume:

                              I call up said company

                              "Did you have an IT Generalist by the name of Bob?"

                              "An IT what? we've never employed one of those...but we had an IT manager here called Bob"

                              You always go by the title on your employment contract. Anything else is tantamount to lying.

                              No, the opposite. If they make up a fake title THEY are lying. If you call and ask an honest question, by law in the US they have to tell the truth. IT Generalist is what he DID, being an IT Manager would legally bind the company to a potential lawsuit in the US as they'd own him manager pay and benefits or whatever and if he wasn't really the manager, they can say "no" even if they used that title potentially.

                              The truth rules here. And in the US it's a legal thing. They can only confirm or deny, they don't get to really provide an opinion. If they claim you didn't when you did, they get in big trouble. Really big trouble.

                              It's a lot more simple than that. If you were hired to be a party clown and you're actually a lawyer are you going to put party clown on your resume and let them think you did something you didn't do? No.

                              Right. You are always free to state your title, but you must do so. Like role Lawyer, title Party Clown. You are free to throw a title out there if you preface that that's all it is. Otherwise, if it isn't ALSO your role, that's flat out lying, whether or not someone at that other firm is willing to lie with you - that doesn't change the lie.

                              I'm wondering if they would understanding let alone appreciate the clarification honestly

                              If a title is pointless, skip it. It's just filler. If the title is in some way useful, include it.

                              yeah I was wondering if it was just better to have no title at all, unless you have a very very specific job. But IT Generalist is the opposite, not specific at all.

                              I'm looking at it right now and it seems strange. Idk

                              replace it as Scott said with

                              Role: abc

                              No need to state role, everyone knows that is what that field is for. You only need to do something like that if including a false title.

                              What is the role of IT Generalist?

                              What do you mean? It's what you do. It's "all the IT" stuff. It's IT without a specific focus.

                              So is the title AND the role IT Generalist?

                              As previously mentioned IT Generalist is not something almost any SMB will understand. And while qualified hiring manager might understand IT Generalist - how many of those are actually out there?

                              I know Scott only runs into qualified hiring managers, because if he talked to someone he felt wasn't one, he'd stop the conversation long before it went anywhere, because he'd likely feel the company isn't worth working for if they don't have a qualified hiring manager.

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                                @dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                I know Scott only runs into qualified hiring managers, because if he talked to someone he felt wasn't one, he'd stop the conversation long before it went anywhere, because he'd likely feel the company isn't worth working for if they don't have a qualified hiring manager.

                                Scott is also able to make some unique job choices.

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                                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                  @scottalanmiller So you leave that blank and EXPLAIN the role, correct? That is what you are saying?

                                  NO! You never use the word role, you never leave that space blank. That's where you always, no exceptions, but the name of the role. The rest is always a detailed explanation of the role. Reinvent nothing here. Don't start changing things. Resumes have a format, stay with it.

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                                    Barnabas Health: Just standard desktop support, no frills. Printers broken, internet explorer won't load this website, imaging, etc.

                                    Garden State Foot & Ankle: I was hired to build a server for them to house X-rays. I was a resource to the owner. He would come up with things he wanted to do and then I was the one to explain how to do them. Desktop support, cabling, purchasing, etc. I honestly was not called very often, the owner was and is a friend of mine who is a podiatrist.

                                    The Arc: I was the director of IT. I was responsible for every appliance, server, workstation, etc. All devices. I handled all of the purchasing in relation to IT. I was the sole IT person covering 33 sites all over ocean county (very large county).

                                    Will continue to update throughout the day. I have some calls coming in

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                                      Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                      The Arc: I was the director of IT. I was responsible for every appliance, server, workstation, etc. All devices. I handled all of the purchasing in relation to IT. I was the sole IT person covering 33 sites all over ocean county (very large county).

                                      Where you really the director? you got to choose the ISPs in use, the phone system in use? etc?

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                                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        The Arc: I was the director of IT. I was responsible for every appliance, server, workstation, etc. All devices. I handled all of the purchasing in relation to IT. I was the sole IT person covering 33 sites all over ocean county (very large county).

                                        Sole IT person and "director" cannot go together. To be a director you must have a department large enough that the only people reasonably reporting to you are managers. Managers who have their own teams. The director term is only reasonable in a Fortune 2000 or so. And even in the lower numbers there, it's often pretty absurd. Unless you have, say, 200 IT people reporting up to you, consider director to be lying. And that's hardly the only deciding factor, but it's the easy one. I've had 100 reports and been the senior most director in a company and I won't use that term on my resume because, even though it was my title and I could and DID fire even executives... it would be a grey area for me.

                                        So let me ask you, as director, did you have hundreds or reports? Could you fire any non-executive in the company yourself, without needing approvals from anyone? If not, you'd better not use that term anywhere.

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                                          Terms:

                                          Manager means you manage people. If you say you are an "IT Manager" you'd better have a small department that reports to you. But it does not imply that there are more managers under you. It could be direct technical reports. An IT manager might only have a team of three or four reports. That's not much of a manager, but it's a manager technically. There is almost never an IT manager in the SMB.

                                          Director means manager of managers. A director implies control of a full department with a full stack of people. To use the term director, assume that you "own" a department and all of the techs report to managers and the managers to you. There is no SMB that has a real director.

                                          CIO means you sit on the executive board driving the company and there is zero IT oversight over you. Both things must be true or you are not a CIO. Directors would normally report to a CIO, but not necessarily. Often you have one or the other, not both. Or one person is both.

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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            So let me ask you, as director, did you have hundreds or reports? Could you fire any non-executive in the company yourself, without needing approvals from anyone? If not, you'd better not use that term anywhere.

                                            That means there were only 2 directors and everyone else was a manager, which i guess is accurate.

                                            Alright. I was responsible for all IT related matters with the exception of personnel?

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