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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse
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      Hard drives are either new or used. I can't see how a HDD can be refurbished.. there is 'nothing' on/in it that can be replaced... typically.

      Server / Desktops are a different story..

      In the past when I knew the server was slated to be retired / scraped - I was fine with picking up used HDDs - even from eBay.

      Did that twelve years ago to an HP ML350 - picked up a set of six drives for like $50... Even if one failed in a month, I still had five more.

      After four more years of running, I still had four drives and the box was still chugging along.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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        @gjacobse said in Refurbished hard drives:

        Hard drives are either new or used. I can't see how a HDD can be refurbished.. there is 'nothing' on/in it that can be replaced... typically.

        The platters, heads, etc.

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Refurbished hard drives:

          @gjacobse said in Refurbished hard drives:

          Hard drives are either new or used. I can't see how a HDD can be refurbished.. there is 'nothing' on/in it that can be replaced... typically.

          The platters, heads, etc.

          I wouldn't bother replacing the heads or platters. the Main external PCB - yea. But anything internal I would just buy another...

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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            @gjacobse said in Refurbished hard drives:

            @scottalanmiller said in Refurbished hard drives:

            @gjacobse said in Refurbished hard drives:

            Hard drives are either new or used. I can't see how a HDD can be refurbished.. there is 'nothing' on/in it that can be replaced... typically.

            The platters, heads, etc.

            I wouldn't bother replacing the heads or platters. the Main external PCB - yea. But anything internal I would just buy another...

            Well yeah, because YOU are not the manufacturer. We are talking about refurbed here, not "messed around with by random IT people." I'm so confused.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Why would the manufacturer mill out new metal chassis when they just need to pop in a fresh platter?

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Refurbished hard drives:

                Why would the manufacturer mill out new metal chassis when they just need to pop in a fresh platter?

                There's no way that they actually refurb'd a drive - absolutely no way. This is just a word for used.

                I'd be shocked if you have proof that anyone is popping these drives open in a clean room to swap parts.

                At best refurb'd here means that they tested it and or did a full drive wipe. At best

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Refurbished hard drives:

                  Why would the manufacturer mill out new metal chassis when they just need to pop in a fresh platter?

                  Why would a manufacturer pay the labor costs involved to save a $0.50 part?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                    @MattSpeller said in Refurbished hard drives:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Refurbished hard drives:

                    Why would the manufacturer mill out new metal chassis when they just need to pop in a fresh platter?

                    There's no way that they actually refurb'd a drive - absolutely no way. This is just a word for used.

                    I'd be shocked if you have proof that anyone is popping these drives open in a clean room to swap parts.

                    At best refurb'd here means that they tested it and or did a full drive wipe. At best

                    That first part is correct. They are actually new drives in most cases. Refurb means it has to be good as actual new. There can be nothing like just testing it, ever. Not possible.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Refurbished hard drives:

                      @MattSpeller said in Refurbished hard drives:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Refurbished hard drives:

                      Why would the manufacturer mill out new metal chassis when they just need to pop in a fresh platter?

                      There's no way that they actually refurb'd a drive - absolutely no way. This is just a word for used.

                      I'd be shocked if you have proof that anyone is popping these drives open in a clean room to swap parts.

                      At best refurb'd here means that they tested it and or did a full drive wipe. At best

                      That first part is correct. They are actually new drives in most cases. Refurb means it has to be good as actual new. There can be nothing like just testing it, ever. Not possible.

                      https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/refurbish

                      http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/everyday-tech/refurbished-electronic.htm

                      "The one thing the label means with any certainty is that a refurbished item can't be sold as new. Because of that, and possibly because of the ambiguity of the "refurbished" label, consumers often shy away from buying refurbished products, even when they may be perfectly fine."

                      I'm pretty sure thats about all anyone can say about refurbished IT gear - it's not "new".

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                        @MattSpeller said in Refurbished hard drives:

                        I'm pretty sure thats about all anyone can say about refurbished IT gear - it's not "new".

                        Can't be SOLD as new. Refurb is almost always new. If you are in IT, that is very important to know. It why you want refurb basically always. Because it means "good as new" and 99% of the time is ACTUALLY new.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          That's the beauty of refurb, getting gear at a fraction of the price because of "new" label restrictions. So you get new for 60% of the original price.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Some companies also use refurb as a label for older stock so that they don't have too many options available through their "new" channels.

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                            • dbeatoD
                              dbeato
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                              We usually buy refurbished drives from Xbyte with warranty from DELl. My recommendation as with any hardware, is to have spare parts of the same model around.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                                @dbeato said in Refurbished hard drives:

                                We usually buy refurbished drives from Xbyte with warranty from DELl. My recommendation as with any hardware, is to have spare parts of the same model around.

                                And those.... are new 🙂

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                                • dbeatoD
                                  dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller correct!

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