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    • Deleted74295D
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      Super Micro. Take a look at them.

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      • DustinB3403D
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        For such a small footprint you could get something from xByte (assuming they are allowed to sell/ship to your location) for well within that price range.

        Having a budget before really knowing what you need is a bit difficult though, as you may end up cutting corners. Or wasting money.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @bigbear
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          @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

          2.) if anything better than mikrotik has surfaced I'd be surprised, but open just for sake of conversation

          Check out Ubiquiti. I've never used Mikrotik so can't compare the two but I've used Ubiquiti a lot in the past and it is really solid equipment for a very inexpensive price.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

            For such a small footprint you could get something from xByte (assuming they are allowed to sell/ship to your location) for well within that price range.

            Having a budget before really knowing what you need is a bit difficult though, as you may end up cutting corners. Or wasting money.

            I would say check out SuperMicro and xByte. They have loads of options available and the support to go along with it.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

              You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

                You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                I thought their base price was $23K. May be wrong though.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @coliver
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                  @coliver It might be more than 10K. I've never looked at their pricing.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @bigbear
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                    @bigbear This is a VM host machine housing one domain controller and a file server only? Is the network gear you are referring to a UTM that charges you licensing fees etc?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @bigbear
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                      @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                      Budget is anywhere under $10k. Could also just go with a NAS if I try Azure AD out, just really can't decide who I want to use for hardware.

                      A NAS, while a reasonable solution to a lot of use cases, is not in its self a solid solution. If you are going to be hosting services on site, such as file shares and AD services, you need at least 2 pieces of hardware.

                      Production Server and Production backup target.

                      The NAS almost always falls into the "backup target" category.

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                      • StrongBadS
                        StrongBad @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                        You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                        Isn't there a used one for sale around here?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @StrongBad
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                          @StrongBad said in New Server for the office:

                          @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                          You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                          Isn't there a used one for sale around here?

                          Actually yes there is!

                          https://mangolassi.it/topic/12990/used-scale-hc3-equipment-for-sale/1

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
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                            Paging @mroth911

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @coliver
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                              @coliver said in New Server for the office:

                              @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                              With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

                              You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                              I thought their base price was $23K. May be wrong though.

                              They're offering single servers now, so I'd assume around 1/3 that price, $7700.

                              I'd immediately check what @xByteSean has to offer.

                              Lenovo is a never touch company now. In addition to all the lies around superfish, the BIOS level remote access bug was only ever fixed by a password change. So if you have a Lenovo on your network, you are no longer in control of said network.

                              Mikrotik do make some good gear, but Ubiquiti has surpassed them in value.

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                              • bigbearB
                                bigbear @coliver
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                                @coliver said in New Server for the office:

                                @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                2.) if anything better than mikrotik has surfaced I'd be surprised, but open just for sake of conversation

                                Check out Ubiquiti. I've never used Mikrotik so can't compare the two but I've used Ubiquiti a lot in the past and it is really solid equipment for a very inexpensive price.

                                Have used a lot of Ubiquiti over the years as a regional WISP. All new stuff is Mikrotek now.

                                There really is no comparison on the router side, Microtik is incredible. They aren't big in the US. Their hardware is killer but you can download RouterOS and run it on a VM.

                                You should check it out.

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said in New Server for the office:

                                  @bigbear This is a VM host machine housing one domain controller and a file server only? Is the network gear you are referring to a UTM that charges you licensing fees etc?

                                  https://mikrotik.com/

                                  They blow everything else away. Best hardware, best software, no-BS licensing. 20 years hardened.

                                  I'm not close minded though, always looking. But for 3 years I have been a Microtik fanboy.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
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                                    I have not looked at MicroTik in probably a decade

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                                    • bigbearB
                                      bigbear @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 said in New Server for the office:

                                      @coliver said in New Server for the office:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                                      With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

                                      You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                                      I thought their base price was $23K. May be wrong though.

                                      They're offering single servers now, so I'd assume around 1/3 that price, $7700.

                                      I'd immediately check what @xByteSean has to offer.

                                      Lenovo is a never touch company now. In addition to all the lies around superfish, the BIOS level remote access bug was only ever fixed by a password change. So if you have a Lenovo on your network, you are no longer in control of said network.

                                      Mikrotik do make some good gear, but Ubiquiti has surpassed them in value.

                                      I never really trust them, lol. Early on I was an AS400 admin (oh 18 years ago) and I had always been drawn to IBM. So I gave them a shot.

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                                      • mroth911M
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                                        I have a scale 3 node cluster for sale?

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                                        • bigbearB
                                          bigbear @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                                          I have not looked at MicroTik in probably a decade

                                          They rely heavily on partners and I dont think there is any good marketing to the U.S. Since I have dealt with them they remind me of dealing with Ubiquiti or Ruckus in their earlier days. A lean/mean company that makes everything in house.

                                          RouterBoard hardware incredible, I dont know how they stay so far ahead with RouterOS thought.

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                                          • bigbearB
                                            bigbear @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                                            With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

                                            You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                                            Its a very low i/o situation. Almost like 2.8TB of live archive file access and 200GB of moderately used data.

                                            Would like a single box solution. Was thinking just NAS with some cloud Azure AD would be sufficient.

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