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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @momurda
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      @momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

      Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?

      @momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

      Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?

      Users, not customers. They don't use AD. They use their own databases. AD is for internal users 99.999% of the time. I've never heard of anyone using it for external. Most just use normal NoSQL databases.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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        @aaronstuder said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

        @momurda LDAP on Linux would be my guess 😉

        Nah, doesn't scale well for that. LDAP is not good for account management.

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco
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          Which third world country did you sign on to administer????

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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            @RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

            Which third world country did you sign on to administer????

            It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

              @RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

              Which third world country did you sign on to administer????

              It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!

              True that.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Common user systems would be MariaDB, MongoDB, Cassandra and such.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by Obsolesce

                  @scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                  @momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                  Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?

                  @momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                  Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?

                  Users, not customers. They don't use AD. They use their own databases. AD is for internal users 99.999% of the time. I've never heard of anyone using it for external. Most just use normal NoSQL databases.

                  Exactly. He said "external authentication" which makes me think for some kind of external to internal authentication for some kind of services using federation services with Active Directory. That's not how you do it in that case, so his management has it all wrong. I think they just need a database... not AD DS.

                  Unless there's a lot more to it the OP is leaving out, this what it's pointing towards.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                    @Tim_G said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                    @momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                    Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?

                    @momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                    Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?

                    Users, not customers. They don't use AD. They use their own databases. AD is for internal users 99.999% of the time. I've never heard of anyone using it for external. Most just use normal NoSQL databases.

                    Exactly. He said "external authentication" which makes me think for some kind of external to internal authentication for some kind of services using federation services with Active Directory. That's not how you do it in that case, so his management has it all wrong. I think they just need a database... not AD DS.

                    Unless there's a lot more to it the OP is leaving out, this what it's pointing towards.

                    Yeah, something is seriously wrong. Everything from the scope (28K is a major AD deployment worth hitting the traders, 28m is 1,000x that size, it would be a world record), not being in contact with the vendor as by far their biggest client, not knowing how to do the job, etc. This doesn't fit. It's like finding out a NASA rocket scientist is on Reddit asking how to design a rocket engine. If this guy isn't the world expert on AD, who is?

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                      @RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                      Which third world country did you sign on to administer????

                      It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!

                      Ethiopia, Uganda, Congo, Afganistan, Yemen, Myanmar, Bangladesh.....

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                        @RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                        Which third world country did you sign on to administer????

                        It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!

                        Australia is under 24m.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                          @RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                          Which third world country did you sign on to administer????

                          It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!

                          So, the entire third world might be 28m + ?

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @RojoLoco
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                            @RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                            @RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                            Which third world country did you sign on to administer????

                            It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!

                            So, the entire third world might be 28m + ?

                            Bangladesh alone is 150+....

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                            • NerdyDadN
                              NerdyDad
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                              Okay, so what organization would have "28+ million authentic users"? Some giant conglomerate?

                              You're talking nearly 10% of America.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @NerdyDad
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                                @NerdyDad said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:

                                Okay, so what organization would have "28+ million authentic users"? Some giant conglomerate?

                                You're talking nearly 10% of America.

                                Apparently the 10% of Americans that moved out of the US with @scottalanmiller

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