Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving
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@scottalanmiller said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
@Dashrender said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
@scottalanmiller said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
@gjacobse said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
@scottalanmiller said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
@gjacobse said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
O365 Admin Center Message Trace:
Which are the TO and FROM fields, there?
can't seem to make columns:
Date time; From ; To.
They shoudl not be emailing to outside entities though, right? Faxmaker.com doesn't want to get that email and O365 might not want to relay to NTG. Try sending to internal people.
If the Faxmaker device can act like a normal email client, then O365 shouldn't have a problem relaying, because the Faxmaker device will be logging in, not trying to be a spammer.
It connects via SMTP, so it is always a relay.
OMG stop saying that - yes I know it works like a relay - but it's not relaying to the outside world.. it's relaying to O365 - but I even took that back with my lower post stating that Faxmaker could act like a normal email client, logging into O365 and simply sending an email to someone else.
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I have to step back from this for other matters...
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@Dashrender said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
OMG stop saying that - yes I know it works like a relay - but it's not relaying to the outside world.. it's relaying to O365 - but I even took that back with my lower post stating that Faxmaker could act like a normal email client, logging into O365 and simply sending an email to someone else.
But I need to keep saying it because it is screwing up your thinking. It IS a relay and it ACTS like a relay. It's relaying email from one MTA through another to a mailbox somewhere with an unknown number of relays behind it. Like the other discussion that we are having... this is a general case that you are trying to make specific. It's not a special case, it works as a relay, because it is a relay.
Relaying to the outside world is actually what it is doing in his example cases.
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I know that.
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So - the problem is not the problem but a different problem that is the problem. Facepalm
In talking with the person today, the issue is this:
User Janice creates an email - but is a fax. Generates Email in Outlook and is sent. Office 365 gets it and sees that it is to <number>@faxmaker.com and kicks it out of O365 back to the onsite server FaxMaker where it has access to the modems.
From there, the email is converted to a fax and is sent using one of the four modems attached to the box.
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Of note - this is totally different then that which was emailed or discussed via phone yesterday with the person.....
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So why did an IP address change this? Is there a rule in O365 that sent ###@faxmaker.com to a specific IP or Host that wasn't updated?
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and another question - sooooo... does inbound faxing actually work?
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@Dashrender said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
and another question - sooooo... does inbound faxing actually work?
My guess is,... yes and has
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@Dashrender said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
So why did an IP address change this? Is there a rule in O365 that sent ###@faxmaker.com to a specific IP or Host that wasn't updated?
This is the 'guess' There is a connector in O365 for faxmaker.com and points to a pair of IPs... which are his IPs, Old and new. Last night going through the connector setup there was a step to Validate - and it was failing.
Today one is failing and one is succeeding. But I went through some of his DNS and added his updated IP to the ARecord.
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@gjacobse said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
@Dashrender said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
So why did an IP address change this? Is there a rule in O365 that sent ###@faxmaker.com to a specific IP or Host that wasn't updated?
This is the 'guess' There is a connector in O365 for faxmaker.com and points to a pair of IPs... which are his IPs, Old and new. Last night going through the connector setup there was a step to Validate - and it was failing.
Today one is failing and one is succeeding. But I went through some of his DNS and added his updated IP to the ARecord.
Nice find. Of course the old IP is failing
Does O365 treat it round robin?
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@gjacobse said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
So - the problem is not the problem but a different problem that is the problem. Facepalm
In talking with the person today, the issue is this:
User Janice creates an email - but is a fax. Generates Email in Outlook and is sent. Office 365 gets it and sees that it is to <number>@faxmaker.com and kicks it out of O365 back to the onsite server FaxMaker where it has access to the modems.
From there, the email is converted to a fax and is sent using one of the four modems attached to the box.
Stinks when the user reports the problem wrong, you look for days, hours at least, go back and say - are you sure? and well of course they aren't.
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@Dashrender said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
@gjacobse said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
So - the problem is not the problem but a different problem that is the problem. Facepalm
In talking with the person today, the issue is this:
User Janice creates an email - but is a fax. Generates Email in Outlook and is sent. Office 365 gets it and sees that it is to <number>@faxmaker.com and kicks it out of O365 back to the onsite server FaxMaker where it has access to the modems.
From there, the email is converted to a fax and is sent using one of the four modems attached to the box.
Stinks when the user reports the problem wrong, you look for days, hours at least, go back and say - are you sure? and well of course they aren't.
Yes,.. makes my asking a question seem like I have no idea what I am talking about. True enough I wasn't familiar with the application or how it worked,.. but explained wrong,.. well Et on you..who made who?
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@gjacobse said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
Of note - this is totally different then that which was emailed or discussed via phone yesterday with the person.....
Well then.... ugh
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@Dashrender said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
So why did an IP address change this? Is there a rule in O365 that sent ###@faxmaker.com to a specific IP or Host that wasn't updated?
Because MS is sending to the old IP address, of course!
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@Dashrender said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
So why did an IP address change this? Is there a rule in O365 that sent ###@faxmaker.com to a specific IP or Host that wasn't updated?
Yeah, it's email forwarding and the MX records would point to the wrong place.
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so poking around Google, points to the Firewall blocking from the IP / Port aspect.
so lets see if we can allow all port 25 traffic.
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But this worked beforehand, why would you have to update your firewall?
Go ahead and test, but the firewall should already be working. An IP change doesn't change the port filtering...
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@DustinB3403 said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
But this worked beforehand, why would you have to update your firewall?
Go ahead and test, but the firewall should already be working. An IP change doesn't change the port filtering...
I suppose that there could be new rules for the new connection.
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@scottalanmiller said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
@DustinB3403 said in Faxmaker - updating Office 365 for Receiving:
But this worked beforehand, why would you have to update your firewall?
Go ahead and test, but the firewall should already be working. An IP change doesn't change the port filtering...
I suppose that there could be new rules for the new connection.
I suppose that is possible, if the rules were specific for the original IP address.
