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    Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      So the question that I have is, why should a single VM hitting 600-700 IOPS really be slow while running this?

      Just make no sense when everything else on the host is running fine. Nothing I was able to capture showed anything else even coming close to a high usage.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        How are you measuring the slowness? What does it "feel" like?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

          So the question that I have is, why should a single VM hitting 600-700 IOPS really be slow while running this?

          Just make no sense when everything else on the host is running fine. Nothing I was able to capture showed anything else even coming close to a high usage.

          Maybe the problem isn't in hardware, but in a process that's running.

          Now I don't understand why a process wouldn't have the processors pegged out (and perhaps a single core is pegged out - i.e. single threaded process) to allow the process to be completed as fast as possible.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

            How are you measuring the slowness? What does it "feel" like?

            As was reported to me, an extremely long log in period. (It feels like listening to nails on a chalk board)

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

              @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

              How are you measuring the slowness? What does it "feel" like?

              As was reported to me, an extremely long log in period. (It feels like listening to nails on a chalk board)

              Logging into the app or the server (VM)?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                How are you measuring the slowness? What does it "feel" like?

                As was reported to me, an extremely long log in period. (It feels like listening to nails on a chalk board)

                Logging into the app or the server (VM)?

                Logging into the VM using the console, or RDP.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre
                  last edited by

                  What's the CPU usage like in the VM?

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    Nominal CPU usage. 0_1479493833452_XenCenterMain_2016-11-18_13-30-26.png

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Could it be waiting on something from the network?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                        Could it be waiting on something from the network?

                        I don't suspect so.... this server runs a tiny spiceworks installation, and processes reports from Salesforce.

                        The read usage on this system is insane for what it is normally doing.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre
                          last edited by dafyre

                          I haven't had a SW installation in a while, but it seems like I remembered it being pretty disk intensive at startup.

                          Edit: NVM. You show the SP process as being what is eating up all the disk activity.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                            this server runs a tiny spiceworks installation

                            There is no such thing.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                              this server runs a tiny spiceworks installation

                              There is no such thing.

                              LOL, it's true. Even the smallest SW install has a massive footprint.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                The read usage on this system is insane for what it is normally doing.

                                Even a tiny SW install we recommend some hefty resources and dedicated SSDs. You definitely just figured out the problem. Had you led with this we could have told you instantly what the issue was.

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                                • DanpD
                                  Danp
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                                  Have you tried excluding the SW directories from backing up with SP?

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                    The read usage on this system is insane for what it is normally doing.

                                    Even a tiny SW install we recommend some hefty resources and dedicated SSDs. You definitely just figured out the problem. Had you led with this we could have told you instantly what the issue was.

                                    Our rather beefy SW install runs on rust just fine. Not even a half decent rust array. Old junk.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                      @MattSpeller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                      The read usage on this system is insane for what it is normally doing.

                                      Even a tiny SW install we recommend some hefty resources and dedicated SSDs. You definitely just figured out the problem. Had you led with this we could have told you instantly what the issue was.

                                      Our rather beefy SW install runs on rust just fine. Not even a half decent rust array. Old junk.

                                      I'm surprised. Even when ours was tiny we gave it 100,000 IOPS and it remained slow.

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                        @MattSpeller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                        The read usage on this system is insane for what it is normally doing.

                                        Even a tiny SW install we recommend some hefty resources and dedicated SSDs. You definitely just figured out the problem. Had you led with this we could have told you instantly what the issue was.

                                        Our rather beefy SW install runs on rust just fine. Not even a half decent rust array. Old junk.

                                        I'm surprised. Even when ours was tiny we gave it 100,000 IOPS and it remained slow.

                                        ¯\(ツ)/¯

                                        There's only 3 of us in IT here. I suspect more concurrent users would kill it.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                          @MattSpeller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                          @MattSpeller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Shadow Protect and Disk IOPS usage..:

                                          The read usage on this system is insane for what it is normally doing.

                                          Even a tiny SW install we recommend some hefty resources and dedicated SSDs. You definitely just figured out the problem. Had you led with this we could have told you instantly what the issue was.

                                          Our rather beefy SW install runs on rust just fine. Not even a half decent rust array. Old junk.

                                          I'm surprised. Even when ours was tiny we gave it 100,000 IOPS and it remained slow.

                                          ¯\(ツ)/¯

                                          There's only 3 of us in IT here. I suspect more concurrent users would kill it.

                                          We had probably ten or fifteen and loads of tickets. But that isn't that much of a jump, I wouldn't think.

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