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    • thwrT
      thwr
      last edited by thwr

      Two of my users had issues lately about missing drive mappings. Turned out that they can't resolve DFS sometimes.

      • No issues for years, no recent direct or indirect changes (last change: ~8 months ago)
      • Drive mapping via GPO/GPP
      • All DFS links do point to the same fileserver
      • Target fileserver can be resolved and accessed directly (\\fileserver) without issues
      • \\domain can be resolved (sure...) and accessed, but \\domain\dfs-root is missing for these clients
      • DNS OK
      • Affected client OS (so far): Win7 Pro SP1, all updates applied
      • Not hardware related (got the issue on two totally different machines)
      • A reboot does help at times, but I bet this more due to some cache timeout / replication cycle or whatever.

      I'll try the obvious stuff tomorrow, like disabling the NICs power saving and client cache flushing:

      dfstutil /pktflush
      

      Source: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc776211(v=ws.10).aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396

      But what is causing this?

      I have a bunch of identical client machines (same hardware, same image, same policies, same software, same patchlevel - heck, even same purchase date) and while nearly all of them are working perfectly fine, one is failing. Same for the other affected machine, 1 out of 5 is failing.

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      • KellyK
        Kelly
        last edited by

        Are all of them on the same site? Do they use the same DNS server for resolution?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          I just had this same issue with a user over seas.

          I'll have to give this a try with her system tomorrow.

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          • thwrT
            thwr @Kelly
            last edited by

            @Kelly said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

            Are all of them on the same site? Do they use the same DNS server for resolution?

            DC, DFS and fileserver are all on the same subnet, so yes, same site.

            Yes, they are using DNS and it's working perfectly fine

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            • thwrT
              thwr @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

              I just had this same issue with a user over seas.

              I'll have to give this a try with her system tomorrow.

              You mean the cache flushing?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Yeah, the user was able to get to the share using the IP, but not dns name.

                Other shares worked just fine via DNS.

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                • thwrT
                  thwr @DustinB3403
                  last edited by thwr

                  @DustinB3403 said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                  Yeah, the user was able to get to the share using the IP, but not dns name.

                  Other shares worked just fine via DNS.

                  Erm, not sure if we are talking about the same thing

                  Let us use these terms:

                  • Domain: acme.local
                  • Fileserver: filer-1, FQDN: filer-1.acme.local
                  • DFS-root: acme.local\dfsroot1
                  • DFS-Links: acme.local\dfsroot1\link1, acme.local\dfsroot1\link2

                  My users can't see acme.local\dfsroot1, but can access the fileserver at \\filer-1\share-behind-link1

                  But your user can't see acme.local at all? That would be some serious DNS issue

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    No no

                    She can access all of our file servers, by IP, and all but 1 by DNS name.

                    So filer1, filer2 work fine to access the share as \filer1\share1 or \filer2\share1

                    But for filer3 she can only access it via \ipaddress\share

                    Of course this probably doesn't help this is the first time she's ever used the VPN. .

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                      No no

                      She can access all of our file servers, by IP, and all but 1 by DNS name.

                      So filer1, filer2 work fine to access the share as \filer1\share1 or \filer2\share1

                      But for filer3 she can only access it via \ipaddress\share

                      Of course this probably doesn't help this is the first time she's ever used the VPN. .

                      Roaming user? E.g. notebook which is sometimes onsite and sometimes offsite via VPN? Given the DNS AAAA/A/CNAME record for your filer is ok, it could be a DNS caching issue.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        I wonder if thwr's issue is cached credentials in Windows.

                        Control Panel > Credential Manager

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          thwr, any errors in either the file server logs or the DFS root logs?

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                          • art_of_shredA
                            art_of_shred Banned @thwr
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                            @thwr said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                            No no

                            She can access all of our file servers, by IP, and all but 1 by DNS name.

                            So filer1, filer2 work fine to access the share as \filer1\share1 or \filer2\share1

                            But for filer3 she can only access it via \ipaddress\share

                            Of course this probably doesn't help this is the first time she's ever used the VPN. .

                            Roaming user? E.g. notebook which is sometimes onsite and sometimes offsite via VPN? Given the DNS AAAA/A/CNAME record for your filer is ok, it could be a DNS caching issue.

                            That sounds suspiciously as though the DNS records for that filer are not quite right. If you can hit 3 of 4 servers by hostname, DNS probably isn't the issue. Something to do with the record on that 4th server seems very likely.

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                            • thwrT
                              thwr @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                              thwr, any errors in either the file server logs or the DFS root logs?

                              Have seen nothing. Probably not cached credentials, but I'll check that.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @art_of_shred
                                last edited by

                                @art_of_shred It probably is a DNS issue of some sort (it was 8PM her time) so I didn't care to dig into it when she's off.

                                I just gave her a favorite to the filer via IP so she could do what she needed for the evening.

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                                • art_of_shredA
                                  art_of_shred Banned @thwr
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                                  @thwr said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                                  @Dashrender said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                                  thwr, any errors in either the file server logs or the DFS root logs?

                                  Have seen nothing. Probably not cached credentials, but I'll check that.

                                  You don't happen to have anything weird like a Pertino adapter throwing a wrench into the mix, do you?

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                                  • thwrT
                                    thwr @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by thwr

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                                    @art_of_shred It probably is a DNS issue of some sort (it was 8PM her time) so I didn't care to dig into it when she's off.

                                    I just gave her a favorite to the filer via IP so she could do what she needed for the evening.

                                    Yeah, but that can turn back at you once the filer gets a new IP for whatever reason.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @thwr
                                      last edited by

                                      @thwr said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                                      @art_of_shred It probably is a DNS issue of some sort (it was 8PM her time) so I didn't care to dig into it when she's off.

                                      I just gave her a favorite to the filer via IP so she could do what she needed for the evening.

                                      Yeah, but that can turn back at you once the filer gets a new IP for whatever reason.

                                      The filer is statically assigned, so it is a user system issue, I just didn't want to take 2 hours to investigate it.

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                                      • thwrT
                                        thwr @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                                        @thwr said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                                        @art_of_shred It probably is a DNS issue of some sort (it was 8PM her time) so I didn't care to dig into it when she's off.

                                        I just gave her a favorite to the filer via IP so she could do what she needed for the evening.

                                        Yeah, but that can turn back at you once the filer gets a new IP for whatever reason.

                                        The filer is statically assigned, so it is a user system issue, I just didn't want to take 2 hours to investigate it.

                                        Just saying.

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                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr
                                          last edited by

                                          Both clients were able to see the DFS root again this morning - without even touching them.

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @thwr
                                            last edited by

                                            @thwr said in Few Windows clients randomly can't resolve DFS:

                                            Both clients were able to see the DFS root again this morning - without even touching them.

                                            How annoying.

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