From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!
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@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Are you sharing compute nodes with Servers? We don't do that and it goes against the best practices that VMWare has set out.
I meant to say earlier that we use 15K drives for the VM Image and SSDs for the replica image. We have bonded 40Gb (4 10Gb ports) to each compute node and redundant 16Gb/s FC to our storage. So our system probably is a bit over built for what we are doing.
No wonder you don't have performance issues
The students haven't started banging away on it yet, lol.
Sure they have, we've been in production for a few years now. We have three different labs already on it.
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@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Are you sharing compute nodes with Servers? We don't do that and it goes against the best practices that VMWare has set out.
I meant to say earlier that we use 15K drives for the VM Image and SSDs for the replica image. We have bonded 40Gb (4 10Gb ports) to each compute node and redundant 16Gb/s FC to our storage. So our system probably is a bit over built for what we are doing.
No wonder you don't have performance issues
The students haven't started banging away on it yet, lol.
Sure they have, we've been in production for a few years now. We have three different labs already on it.
I misread that, then. *-)
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@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
Why would you want to do that? that opens that data store up to things like Crypto locker.
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@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
http://www.lieben.nu/liebensraum/onedrivemapper/
This script is working so far. We're working on getting it working with ADFS with Windows logins.
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@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
http://www.lieben.nu/liebensraum/onedrivemapper/
This script is working so far. We're working on getting it working with ADFS with Windows logins.
Do you do this to allow the old way of accessing files to remove your need for training?
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@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
http://www.lieben.nu/liebensraum/onedrivemapper/
This script is working so far. We're working on getting it working with ADFS with Windows logins.
Do you do this to allow the old way of accessing files to remove your need for training?
Old way of accessing files. Some of our users have applications (photo editing and CAD) that require dependencies and a drive letter. Right now we're testing to see if this will work for our needs. I also don't want stuff in my OneDrive to sync to my local machine and this is the easiest way to access it.
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@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
Why would you want to do that? that opens that data store up to things like Crypto locker.
Um what? How is it not already by using the "normal" OneDrive client.
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@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
Why would you want to do that? that opens that data store up to things like Crypto locker.
The default sync agent has the same risks with additions of onboard storage requirements. The only way you prevent the cryptolocker threat is to only access OneDrive from a web browser, which I'm all for, but that wouldn't meet our needs.
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@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
Why would you want to do that? that opens that data store up to things like Crypto locker.
Yeah, this is true.
However, in a VDI scenario, you don't want to have user files needing to syncing. every time they log in. The fact that it is one drive also helps in that you can do file versioning there, right?
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@JaredBusch said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
Why would you want to do that? that opens that data store up to things like Crypto locker.
Um what? How is it not already by using the "normal" OneDrive client.
Because the normal one drive client tries to sync all the files in your one drive account down to your local machine. Generally this is not a good way to do things where non-persistent VDI is involved.
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@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@JaredBusch said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
Why would you want to do that? that opens that data store up to things like Crypto locker.
Um what? How is it not already by using the "normal" OneDrive client.
Because the normal one drive client tries to sync all the files in your one drive account down to your local machine. Generally this is not a good way to do things where non-persistent VDI is involved.
WTF? What is wrong with you people being extra stupid today.
I realize that.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with my statement to @Dashrender
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@JaredBusch said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@JaredBusch said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@dafyre said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@scottalanmiller said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@Dashrender said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@coliver said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
Good luck we've got about 100 virtual desktops deployed and are looking to do another 100 next summer. We've got a big IBM SAN and a half dozen hefty servers doing the processing.
How many compute nodes do you have? Coliver
Six right now. We're haven't gotten close to maxing then out yet. That being said these machines perform at the physical desktop level but they aren't persistent, yet, so every time someone logs in they get a new desktop.
That's often what you want with VDI. Pristine desktops every time.
Yes, we're working on getting persistent storage, not VMs, setup for staff. Then we're looking at doing OneDrive on student machines mounted via WebDAV.
If you are able to figure out how to mount OneDrive via Webdav automagically, I'd be interested in knowing how you do it.
Why would you want to do that? that opens that data store up to things like Crypto locker.
Um what? How is it not already by using the "normal" OneDrive client.
Because the normal one drive client tries to sync all the files in your one drive account down to your local machine. Generally this is not a good way to do things where non-persistent VDI is involved.
WTF? What is wrong with you people being extra stupid today.
I realize that.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with my statement to @Dashrender
Apparently I can't brain today. I has the dumb.
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@JaredBusch It's Monday, no one has had enough alcohol to function properly yet.
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@DustinB3403 said in From thin clients to desktops… not the other way!:
@JaredBusch It's Monday, no one has had enough alcohol to function properly yet.
Took me till Tuesday to even see this!
