Synology crashed disk this morning
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@guyinpv Did the Synology come with the drives already installed? If so I'd ask support. If they didn't come with the Synology I'd ask the vendor support.
What is the reallocated sector count in the SMART statistics?
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@travisdh1 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@guyinpv Did the Synology come with the drives already installed? If so I'd ask support. If they didn't come with the Synology I'd ask the vendor support.
What is the reallocated sector count in the SMART statistics?
It's actually performing the advanced SMART tests right now, at 40% complete. I'll know in a little bit the final details.
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@guyinpv said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@DustinB3403 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@guyinpv said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
I guess the question is, does the sucker really need replaced? I mean really? Is this considered a "bad" drive and be covered by a warranty? I have my doubts. If I tell them "DSM says it has a bad sector, can you replace it?" They might laugh at me.
Why would use use RAID0 and then question if the drive needs to be replaced?
Huh?
It was a bit tongue in cheek, RAID0 provides no protection against a drive failure, one drive has partially failed. So you've likely lost the data that was in that section of the disk.
And you've asked if you should retry the drive, or replace the drive.
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@DustinB3403 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@guyinpv said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@DustinB3403 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@guyinpv said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
I guess the question is, does the sucker really need replaced? I mean really? Is this considered a "bad" drive and be covered by a warranty? I have my doubts. If I tell them "DSM says it has a bad sector, can you replace it?" They might laugh at me.
Why would use use RAID0 and then question if the drive needs to be replaced?
Huh?
It was a bit tongue in cheek, RAID0 provides no protection against a drive failure, one drive has partially failed. So you've likely lost the data that was in that section of the disk.
And you've asked if you should retry the drive, or replace the drive.
Well that's what threw me off. Even with the error and the message that it was "crashed", I could access all the files just fine. The shared folders were there, etc. It was even telling me to copy the files off just in case. So on one hand it said there was a crash, on the other hand, nothing was broken.
Many people said they just took out the drive and reinserted it and all was well. This is what I did and it came back to life, verified the RAID and so the only issue is that it now lists one bad sector on drive 2.
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@guyinpv said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@DustinB3403 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@guyinpv said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@DustinB3403 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@guyinpv said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
I guess the question is, does the sucker really need replaced? I mean really? Is this considered a "bad" drive and be covered by a warranty? I have my doubts. If I tell them "DSM says it has a bad sector, can you replace it?" They might laugh at me.
Why would use use RAID0 and then question if the drive needs to be replaced?
Huh?
It was a bit tongue in cheek, RAID0 provides no protection against a drive failure, one drive has partially failed. So you've likely lost the data that was in that section of the disk.
And you've asked if you should retry the drive, or replace the drive.
Well that's what threw me off. Even with the error and the message that it was "crashed", I could access all the files just fine. The shared folders were there, etc. It was even telling me to copy the files off just in case. So on one hand it said there was a crash, on the other hand, nothing was broken.
Many people said they just took out the drive and reinserted it and all was well. This is what I did and it came back to life, verified the RAID and so the only issue is that it now lists one bad sector on drive 2.
My point is, if you care about the data, don't use RAID0.
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A single drive would be safer compared to RAID0, because with RAID0 if a drive does go, you lose all of the data stored on that drive.
Guessing that this is a 2-drive unit you have what 8TB max in this unit (2x4TB raid0)?
Just purchase a single 8TB drive.
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@DustinB3403 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
A single drive would be safer compared to RAID0, because with RAID0 if a drive does go, you lose all of the data stored on that drive.
Guessing that this is a 2-drive unit you have what 8TB max in this unit (2x4TB raid0)?
Just purchase a single 8TB drive.
A single drive is not safer because if the drive goes you still lose all of the data on that drive.
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@stacksofplates said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@DustinB3403 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
A single drive would be safer compared to RAID0, because with RAID0 if a drive does go, you lose all of the data stored on that drive.
Guessing that this is a 2-drive unit you have what 8TB max in this unit (2x4TB raid0)?
Just purchase a single 8TB drive.
A single drive is not safer because if the drive goes you still lose all of the data on that drive.
It is because in raid 0 any one of the drives die you lose all the data... 2 drive raid, twice as likely for a failure.
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@stacksofplates said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@DustinB3403 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
A single drive would be safer compared to RAID0, because with RAID0 if a drive does go, you lose all of the data stored on that drive.
Guessing that this is a 2-drive unit you have what 8TB max in this unit (2x4TB raid0)?
Just purchase a single 8TB drive.
A single drive is not safer because if the drive goes you still lose all of the data on that drive.
With a single drive, you have a lower chance of failure (raid controllers, drive issues whatever) And a single drive is easily copied from for backup purposes.
You get an equal size drive, and robocopy or DD all of the data.
Backup done.
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@brianlittlejohn said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@stacksofplates said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
@DustinB3403 said in Synology crashed disk this morning:
A single drive would be safer compared to RAID0, because with RAID0 if a drive does go, you lose all of the data stored on that drive.
Guessing that this is a 2-drive unit you have what 8TB max in this unit (2x4TB raid0)?
Just purchase a single 8TB drive.
A single drive is not safer because if the drive goes you still lose all of the data on that drive.
It is because in raid 0 any one of the drives die you lose all the data... 2 drive raid, twice as likely for a failure.
Ah ya fair enough. I was just thinking you still only need to lose one either way. It's been a long day.
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Turns out neither of the two drives have a reported bad sector in SMART. The only thing I can see is that disk 2 has SMART value "current_pending_sector" of 1. Apparently this means there was a write or read issue and it will be marked the next time it attempts to be accessed.
As far as I've researched, having 1 pending sector issue is nothing to worry about.
I just wonder why it didn't handle it automatically and further, wonder if it's striping that somehow prevented it from auto-fixed the sector. I may just have to use these drives separately and skip the striping.
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@guyinpv i would agree. Nothing to worry about.
