Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Even if they don't want the train, they might just want your supplies.
But would turn into zombies long before you even realized that they were after them. They wouldn't get your supplies, they'd just get eaten by zombies and/or be forced to try to siege your rolling fortress that you control. They might be able to block the tracks, but you can always not go there, go back, turn around, etc.
How quickly can a train turn around..... or even reverse away from a blocked path? (honestly asking)
I would imagine that if a group could block the tracks, that they'd essentially would've won the battle. Besides against the zombies.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
How quickly can a train turn around..... or even reverse away from a blocked path? (honestly asking)
About thirty seconds. Nowhere nearly as fast as a car, but fast. Remember they are electric drive so crazy torque. And they have a LOT of traction. So they can stop on a dime at 8-10 mph with a light load. Fast enough that someone trying to catch you would have a really, really tough time. Especially if you control the train, the firepower from the train, have the high ground lookout of the train and control the horn to call zombies to you whenever you want.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
I would imagine that if a group could block the tracks, that they'd essentially would've won the battle. Besides against the zombies.
If you block it with people, you're toast. If you block it with cars, you need a lot of them. A LOT of them. If you block it with buidings and stuff, the train can see it from a long way away. It's very, very hard to surprise a train because of long, straight tracks.
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How are modern trains powered?
How would anyone controlling a train maintain it long enough to let everyone die of, along with the zombies?
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So diesel, or overhead electric cables. . .
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Which means, you have a very finite amount of fuel before your stuck (somewhere) hopefully with fewer zombies than from where you came.
But presumably the zombies would just follow you for as long as there are tracks..
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
How are modern trains powered?
Most are diesel generators powering electric drives. Essentially anything that isn't steam powered is electric under the hood. They are just rolling power plants. SO all kinds of electric power.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
So diesel, or overhead electric cables. . .
Those are the two options. Overhead electric is mostly just NYC.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
But presumably the zombies would just follow you for as long as there are tracks..
Not Walking Dead zombies. They dont understand tracks nor do they follow once the site and sound goes away.
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How much fuel do trains usually carry, how far could they go without refueling.
What is the shelf life on diesel?
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Which means, you have a very finite amount of fuel before your stuck (somewhere) hopefully with fewer zombies than from where you came.
It's a very, very long way. Trains are very fuel efficient and carry and insane amount of fuel and are designed to go anywhere without refueling with huge loads, you'd not take a big load, just a really light one at really efficient speeds so the fuel would easily last ten times as long as normal. And fuel for trains is along the tracks, so generally easy to get to.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
But presumably the zombies would just follow you for as long as there are tracks..
Not Walking Dead zombies. They dont understand tracks nor do they follow once the site and sound goes away.
This is true, but zombies do just roam....
I would guess that they'd just roam forwards along the easy path.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
I would imagine that if a group could block the tracks, that they'd essentially would've won the battle. Besides against the zombies.
If you block it with people, you're toast. If you block it with cars, you need a lot of them. A LOT of them. If you block it with buidings and stuff, the train can see it from a long way away. It's very, very hard to surprise a train because of long, straight tracks.
Trains have derailed for way less than a car on the tracks. I do not think this is a promising solution.
Sailboat is my vote for long long term.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
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@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Trains have derailed for way less than a car on the tracks. I do not think this is a promising solution.
Only fast ones that don't apply here. Slow ones can move nearly anything without derailing.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
This is true, but zombies do just roam....
I would guess that they'd just roam forwards along the easy path.
Which would not be tracks, those are actually hard to follow because of the ties.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.
Diesel shelf life 1 year
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf
edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.
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@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.
Diesel shelf life 1 year
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf
edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.
Weird, my car has no problems going longer than that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.
Diesel shelf life 1 year
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf
edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.
Weird, my car has no problems going longer than that.
Change your fuel filter soon heheh
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.
Diesel shelf life 1 year
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf
edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.
Weird, my car has no problems going longer than that.
I've also had varied results with long term fuel storage as well, it usually can last much longer, but I think perhaps it can be bad for the engine.
