Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse A train at even 10 miles per hour would be fast enough to keep any zombies away.
Only when trains are pushed beyond their intended speeds for the zone they are in is when things like this occur.
Yup, even 8mph. You go slow and take no risks. Just run over zombies or push them aside is all. Going fast would be insane.
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Of course you would have to have teams ready to go and clear the track at any given time. If a tree has fallen on the track you need to get it moved immediately.
But slow and steady would win with this every time. Just need a team of people who can operate chain saws (or team saws).
That or figure out a decent way to move the tree with the train. Maybe a winch system of some sort....
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Even without moving, the train is pretty easy to secure. It is elevated, designed to be locked up and you can move from car to car without being exposed.
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@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
My point was you don't have to, at least not anytime soon. And two, you just push it. What tree is bigger than a train can move?
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
Or took out the track with a torch or worse... or blasted the bridge you need to use since there isn't another one for 1,000 miles....
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
My point was you don't have to, at least not anytime soon. And two, you just push it. What tree is bigger than a train can move?
I suppose... i mean trains do move a lot.....
But trees break or fall over all of the time. The chances of a tree falling onto the track are a constant.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
My point was you don't have to, at least not anytime soon. And two, you just push it. What tree is bigger than a train can move?
I suppose... i mean trains do move a lot.....
But trees break or fall over all of the time. The chances of a tree falling onto the track are a constant.
Not in the US, trees are cleared from near tracks. They can't fall onto tracks or the trains couldn't safely do 110 mph + today. Tracks specifically don't have trees nearby in the US. Most of Europe, too.
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@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
Or took out the track with a torch or worse... or blasted the bridge you need to use since there isn't another one for 1,000 miles....
Zombies don't do that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
Or took out the track with a torch or worse... or blasted the bridge you need to use since there isn't another one for 1,000 miles....
Zombies don't do that.
But people might if they see that you have something they want. People are generally jealous, and they would do something as stupid as destroying the track to have the train....
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
Or took out the track with a torch or worse... or blasted the bridge you need to use since there isn't another one for 1,000 miles....
Zombies don't do that.
But people might if they see that you have something they want. People are generally jealous, and they would do something as stupid as destroying the track to have the train....
But how would that work? They see you with a train so they risk their lives to get ahead of you, guess where you are going, expose themselves to zombies and ruin the usefulness of that train, and all others, to themselves, just to stop you? Not at all realistic.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
Or took out the track with a torch or worse... or blasted the bridge you need to use since there isn't another one for 1,000 miles....
Zombies don't do that.
But people might if they see that you have something they want. People are generally jealous, and they would do something as stupid as destroying the track to have the train....
But how would that work? They see you with a train so they risk their lives to get ahead of you, guess where you are going, expose themselves to zombies and ruin the usefulness of that train, and all others, to themselves, just to stop you? Not at all realistic.
It's not a matter of being "realistic" people do incredibly stupid things all of the time. Have you watched Youtube lately?
I'd literally bet my life that there would be a person or group that would try to ruin the track for the purpose of having whatever you have.
Even if they don't want the train, they might just want your supplies.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
I'd literally bet my life that there would be a person or group that would try to ruin the track for the purpose of having whatever you have.
But people that stupid would be dead. No matter how much you think someone is dumb enough to try it, the more likely they are to try it is directly connected to how unlikely that they will succeed or survive.
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I still think a mega yacht would be a better approach to survival, if you can get one.
Military boats would probably be at sea already, so those are off the list. And are probably far to complex to manage for a non-military person.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Even if they don't want the train, they might just want your supplies.
But would turn into zombies long before you even realized that they were after them. They wouldn't get your supplies, they'd just get eaten by zombies and/or be forced to try to siege your rolling fortress that you control. They might be able to block the tracks, but you can always not go there, go back, turn around, etc.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Even if they don't want the train, they might just want your supplies.
But would turn into zombies long before you even realized that they were after them. They wouldn't get your supplies, they'd just get eaten by zombies and/or be forced to try to siege your rolling fortress that you control. They might be able to block the tracks, but you can always not go there, go back, turn around, etc.
How quickly can a train turn around..... or even reverse away from a blocked path? (honestly asking)
I would imagine that if a group could block the tracks, that they'd essentially would've won the battle. Besides against the zombies.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
How quickly can a train turn around..... or even reverse away from a blocked path? (honestly asking)
About thirty seconds. Nowhere nearly as fast as a car, but fast. Remember they are electric drive so crazy torque. And they have a LOT of traction. So they can stop on a dime at 8-10 mph with a light load. Fast enough that someone trying to catch you would have a really, really tough time. Especially if you control the train, the firepower from the train, have the high ground lookout of the train and control the horn to call zombies to you whenever you want.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
I would imagine that if a group could block the tracks, that they'd essentially would've won the battle. Besides against the zombies.
If you block it with people, you're toast. If you block it with cars, you need a lot of them. A LOT of them. If you block it with buidings and stuff, the train can see it from a long way away. It's very, very hard to surprise a train because of long, straight tracks.
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How are modern trains powered?
How would anyone controlling a train maintain it long enough to let everyone die of, along with the zombies?
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So diesel, or overhead electric cables. . .
