Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
My point was you don't have to, at least not anytime soon. And two, you just push it. What tree is bigger than a train can move?
I suppose... i mean trains do move a lot.....
But trees break or fall over all of the time. The chances of a tree falling onto the track are a constant.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
My point was you don't have to, at least not anytime soon. And two, you just push it. What tree is bigger than a train can move?
I suppose... i mean trains do move a lot.....
But trees break or fall over all of the time. The chances of a tree falling onto the track are a constant.
Not in the US, trees are cleared from near tracks. They can't fall onto tracks or the trains couldn't safely do 110 mph + today. Tracks specifically don't have trees nearby in the US. Most of Europe, too.
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@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
Or took out the track with a torch or worse... or blasted the bridge you need to use since there isn't another one for 1,000 miles....
Zombies don't do that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
Or took out the track with a torch or worse... or blasted the bridge you need to use since there isn't another one for 1,000 miles....
Zombies don't do that.
But people might if they see that you have something they want. People are generally jealous, and they would do something as stupid as destroying the track to have the train....
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
Or took out the track with a torch or worse... or blasted the bridge you need to use since there isn't another one for 1,000 miles....
Zombies don't do that.
But people might if they see that you have something they want. People are generally jealous, and they would do something as stupid as destroying the track to have the train....
But how would that work? They see you with a train so they risk their lives to get ahead of you, guess where you are going, expose themselves to zombies and ruin the usefulness of that train, and all others, to themselves, just to stop you? Not at all realistic.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller But how would you move a big tree that's fallen directly across the track, or worse, in line with it?
Or took out the track with a torch or worse... or blasted the bridge you need to use since there isn't another one for 1,000 miles....
Zombies don't do that.
But people might if they see that you have something they want. People are generally jealous, and they would do something as stupid as destroying the track to have the train....
But how would that work? They see you with a train so they risk their lives to get ahead of you, guess where you are going, expose themselves to zombies and ruin the usefulness of that train, and all others, to themselves, just to stop you? Not at all realistic.
It's not a matter of being "realistic" people do incredibly stupid things all of the time. Have you watched Youtube lately?
I'd literally bet my life that there would be a person or group that would try to ruin the track for the purpose of having whatever you have.
Even if they don't want the train, they might just want your supplies.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
I'd literally bet my life that there would be a person or group that would try to ruin the track for the purpose of having whatever you have.
But people that stupid would be dead. No matter how much you think someone is dumb enough to try it, the more likely they are to try it is directly connected to how unlikely that they will succeed or survive.
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I still think a mega yacht would be a better approach to survival, if you can get one.
Military boats would probably be at sea already, so those are off the list. And are probably far to complex to manage for a non-military person.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Even if they don't want the train, they might just want your supplies.
But would turn into zombies long before you even realized that they were after them. They wouldn't get your supplies, they'd just get eaten by zombies and/or be forced to try to siege your rolling fortress that you control. They might be able to block the tracks, but you can always not go there, go back, turn around, etc.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Even if they don't want the train, they might just want your supplies.
But would turn into zombies long before you even realized that they were after them. They wouldn't get your supplies, they'd just get eaten by zombies and/or be forced to try to siege your rolling fortress that you control. They might be able to block the tracks, but you can always not go there, go back, turn around, etc.
How quickly can a train turn around..... or even reverse away from a blocked path? (honestly asking)
I would imagine that if a group could block the tracks, that they'd essentially would've won the battle. Besides against the zombies.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
How quickly can a train turn around..... or even reverse away from a blocked path? (honestly asking)
About thirty seconds. Nowhere nearly as fast as a car, but fast. Remember they are electric drive so crazy torque. And they have a LOT of traction. So they can stop on a dime at 8-10 mph with a light load. Fast enough that someone trying to catch you would have a really, really tough time. Especially if you control the train, the firepower from the train, have the high ground lookout of the train and control the horn to call zombies to you whenever you want.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
I would imagine that if a group could block the tracks, that they'd essentially would've won the battle. Besides against the zombies.
If you block it with people, you're toast. If you block it with cars, you need a lot of them. A LOT of them. If you block it with buidings and stuff, the train can see it from a long way away. It's very, very hard to surprise a train because of long, straight tracks.
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How are modern trains powered?
How would anyone controlling a train maintain it long enough to let everyone die of, along with the zombies?
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So diesel, or overhead electric cables. . .
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Which means, you have a very finite amount of fuel before your stuck (somewhere) hopefully with fewer zombies than from where you came.
But presumably the zombies would just follow you for as long as there are tracks..
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
How are modern trains powered?
Most are diesel generators powering electric drives. Essentially anything that isn't steam powered is electric under the hood. They are just rolling power plants. SO all kinds of electric power.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
So diesel, or overhead electric cables. . .
Those are the two options. Overhead electric is mostly just NYC.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
But presumably the zombies would just follow you for as long as there are tracks..
Not Walking Dead zombies. They dont understand tracks nor do they follow once the site and sound goes away.
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How much fuel do trains usually carry, how far could they go without refueling.
What is the shelf life on diesel?
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Which means, you have a very finite amount of fuel before your stuck (somewhere) hopefully with fewer zombies than from where you came.
It's a very, very long way. Trains are very fuel efficient and carry and insane amount of fuel and are designed to go anywhere without refueling with huge loads, you'd not take a big load, just a really light one at really efficient speeds so the fuel would easily last ten times as long as normal. And fuel for trains is along the tracks, so generally easy to get to.
