No exception of privacy on computers...
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I heard about this on Security Now - WTF judge - you really expect no privacy on a computer what so ever? So much so that you don't care if the government does a warrantless tap on your stuff?
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Doesn't this also mean that anyone could hack anyone, if it's legal, no expection of privacy and the government isn't using any special process to get to it then.
so a Citizen can also hack another citizen
and a Citizen can hack the government all legally. -
@Jason said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
Doesn't this also mean that anyone could hack anyone, if it's legal, no expection of privacy and the government isn't using any special process to get to it then.
so a Citizen can also hack another citizen
and a Citizen can hack the government all legally.I don't see why not.
There's no way this will stand the next round.
Steve mentioned something about a "broken blinds" test. Apparently there is a legal president where a cop was looking in a window, and because they had broken blinds he could see in side, because it was obvious that the blinds were broken, the home owner could have no expectation of privacy. Steve said that the judge might have been trying to apply that logic here - but doesn't believe it will hold up. Unlike the blinds situation, you can't just casually look at your computer and realize there are flaws in your security posture.
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This, he posits, is because we all voluntarily give up our IP addresses to third parties everyday, such as internet service providers.
Umm that's not how that works.
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@Jason said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
Doesn't this also mean that anyone could hack anyone, if it's legal, no expection of privacy and the government isn't using any special process to get to it then.
so a Citizen can also hack another citizen
and a Citizen can hack the government all legally.All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
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@stacksofplates said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
This, he posits, is because we all voluntarily give up our IP addresses to third parties everyday, such as internet service providers.
Umm that's not how that works.
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@Jason said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
[and] This doesn't phase the judge either, who writes that the defendant “has no reasonable expectation of privacy in his computer,”
Or their home....
basically if you are living in America, you have no expectation of the government obeying the law. Suckers. - Judge
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@stacksofplates said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
This, he posits, is because we all voluntarily give up our IP addresses to third parties everyday, such as internet service providers.
Umm that's not how that works.
Like you know, how we give out the address of our house.
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@scottalanmiller said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@stacksofplates said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
This, he posits, is because we all voluntarily give up our IP addresses to third parties everyday, such as internet service providers.
Umm that's not how that works.
Like you know, how we give out the address of our house.
I know - I couldn't believe that the judge felt that exfiltrating the username of a computer was the same as getting the IP address - what world does he live in?
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@Dashrender said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@scottalanmiller said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@stacksofplates said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
This, he posits, is because we all voluntarily give up our IP addresses to third parties everyday, such as internet service providers.
Umm that's not how that works.
Like you know, how we give out the address of our house.
I know - I couldn't believe that the judge felt that exfiltrating the username of a computer was the same as getting the IP address - what world does he live in?
America... where you don't need to understand technology to legislate or rule against it.
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@Dashrender said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@scottalanmiller said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@stacksofplates said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
This, he posits, is because we all voluntarily give up our IP addresses to third parties everyday, such as internet service providers.
Umm that's not how that works.
Like you know, how we give out the address of our house.
I know - I couldn't believe that the judge felt that exfiltrating the username of a computer was the same as getting the IP address - what world does he live in?
A world where slipping a few bucks to a judge is all it takes to breach reality.
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@scottalanmiller said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@Dashrender said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@scottalanmiller said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@stacksofplates said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
This, he posits, is because we all voluntarily give up our IP addresses to third parties everyday, such as internet service providers.
Umm that's not how that works.
Like you know, how we give out the address of our house.
I know - I couldn't believe that the judge felt that exfiltrating the username of a computer was the same as getting the IP address - what world does he live in?
A world where slipping a few bucks to a judge is all it takes to breach reality.
Hey! How else is that judge going to pay for their re-election campaign. (I'm not sure if this was an appointed Judge or Elected)
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@coliver said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@Dashrender said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@scottalanmiller said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
@stacksofplates said in No exception of privacy on computers...:
This, he posits, is because we all voluntarily give up our IP addresses to third parties everyday, such as internet service providers.
Umm that's not how that works.
Like you know, how we give out the address of our house.
I know - I couldn't believe that the judge felt that exfiltrating the username of a computer was the same as getting the IP address - what world does he live in?
America... where you don't need to understand technology to legislate or rule against it.
Wankers are infecting we of the North as well. It seems to be highly contagious
