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    Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks hrm I believe I've tried to mount the share like this, but was befumbled by the system complaining that it wasn't in fstab.

      As for the dismount / remount issue, it likely has something that is using the connection which is why it doesn't reconnect.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        A reboot likely corrects the issue.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates
          last edited by stacksofplates

          rebooted and still the same issue.

          There wasn't anything using NFS at the time. I ran a backup, it completed, I unmounted it, and then clicked it again and nothing. Rebooted and still won't connect. But if I mount through cli, it will work again for a short while.

          Also still can't add an NFS SR for VDI, same error.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            I'm assuming you rebooted the XO installation, I wonder if you have to umount it first.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said:

              I'm assuming you rebooted the XO installation, I wonder if you have to umount it first.

              ya I'm too tired to mess with it tonight. I'm thinking about trying out ovirt anyway so it might not be worth it to mess with it much more.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                Why destroy what you have built already? Just standup ovirt on a separate vm.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  Why destroy what you have built already? Just standup ovirt on a separate vm.

                  It's the upstream for RHEV. It's not a management interface for Xen.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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                    @johnhooks said:

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    What process are you using to add it through the CLI, I wonder if the same thing is happening when I attempt to setup the newer Xo installations that I've tried.

                    Just mounting it normally. I just go to /tmp/xo-server/mounts and do

                    mount -t nfs server:/volume/path remote-#
                    

                    Then click attach in the interface and it attaches.

                    If I unattach the mount and remount it even through the cli, it won't mount in XO.

                    Weird, that's not true. It mounted again, but then I noticed it was unmounted (I was running a test backup).

                    Well this did work once I was under root on my test system. I had to initially add the mount using the web console as ip /path/store

                    Including the initial / it didn't mount otherwise.

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                    • hobbit666H
                      hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                      @DustinB3403 and I have a GitHub hosting of the script now. As it gets updated, it will update there.

                      https://github.com/scottalanmiller/xenorchestra_installer

                      Is this just for Ubuntu or will it work on CentOS?? (I prefer CentOS know my way round it better than Ubuntu)

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @hobbit666
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                        @hobbit666 said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                        @DustinB3403 and I have a GitHub hosting of the script now. As it gets updated, it will update there.

                        https://github.com/scottalanmiller/xenorchestra_installer

                        Is this just for Ubuntu or will it work on CentOS?? (I prefer CentOS know my way round it better than Ubuntu)

                        Xen Orchestra was built on Debian, I built the installation guide on Ubuntu and have tested it on Debian as well.

                        If you want to build an installer for CentOS you're more then welcome to, this one was built for the Debian family.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                          @hobbit666 said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                          @DustinB3403 and I have a GitHub hosting of the script now. As it gets updated, it will update there.

                          https://github.com/scottalanmiller/xenorchestra_installer

                          Is this just for Ubuntu or will it work on CentOS?? (I prefer CentOS know my way round it better than Ubuntu)

                          It's Ubuntu specific. Should be adaptable to CentOS, but they don't target CentOS so I would recommend Ubuntu as that is what the XO project tests against. I plan to be doing a 16.04 update very soon, as we need XO up and running in the NTG Lab once it reaches California.

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                          • hobbit666H
                            hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                            @hobbit666 said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                            @DustinB3403 and I have a GitHub hosting of the script now. As it gets updated, it will update there.

                            https://github.com/scottalanmiller/xenorchestra_installer

                            Is this just for Ubuntu or will it work on CentOS?? (I prefer CentOS know my way round it better than Ubuntu)

                            It's Ubuntu specific. Should be adaptable to CentOS, but they don't target CentOS so I would recommend Ubuntu as that is what the XO project tests against. I plan to be doing a 16.04 update very soon, as we need XO up and running in the NTG Lab once it reaches California.

                            That script seems to have worked fine with 16.04 I have XO up and running. Just need to play now see what it can do 😄

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                            • hobbit666H
                              hobbit666
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                              So I've gone through this thread but still a bit confused on Backups.

                              My plan is to run 7-8 VM's over two XenServers and Starwinds free VSAN. But I want to "backup" the VM's (well at least 3) to a NAS, is this done via the "snapshot" option?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                                @hobbit666 said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                                So I've gone through this thread but still a bit confused on Backups.

                                My plan is to run 7-8 VM's over two XenServers and Starwinds free VSAN. But I want to "backup" the VM's (well at least 3) to a NAS, is this done via the "snapshot" option?

                                Interesting, why are you using Starwind which requires a Windows VM, on top of the hypervisor, on each node.. that's a lot of Windows overhead and stuff, when XenServer does this natively itself with no need for VMs, licensing or anything. Would be faster and more stable doing it the native way unless you need Starwind features that XS doesn't provide.

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                                • hobbit666H
                                  hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by hobbit666

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                                  @hobbit666 said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                                  So I've gone through this thread but still a bit confused on Backups.

                                  My plan is to run 7-8 VM's over two XenServers and Starwinds free VSAN. But I want to "backup" the VM's (well at least 3) to a NAS, is this done via the "snapshot" option?

                                  Interesting, why are you using Starwind which requires a Windows VM, on top of the hypervisor, on each node.. that's a lot of Windows overhead and stuff, when XenServer does this natively itself with no need for VMs, licensing or anything. Would be faster and more stable doing it the native way unless you need Starwind features that XS doesn't provide.

                                  Wasn't aware XenServer could do VSAN/Replication so will look into this thanks Scott.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                                    @hobbit666 said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                                    Wasn't aware XenServer could do VSAN/Replication so will look into this thanks Scott.

                                    It's called DRBD and is fully automated if you use HA-Lizards' HA system for XenServer.

                                    It's not VSAN, VSAN is conceptually a fallback for when things like DRBD do not exist. This is native RAIN. Full replication at the lowest level of the stack, and presented as local storage, not SAN, on each host. So there is never a network block storage protocol to get in the way like a VSAN has to use.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      The difference is that DRBD does not do scale out, you need Starwind for that. But for two node mirrored replication, it's unbeatable. It's the same technology we use for storage clustering on all Linux systems.

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                                      • hobbit666H
                                        hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                                        The difference is that DRBD does not do scale out, you need Starwind for that. But for two node mirrored replication, it's unbeatable. It's the same technology we use for storage clustering on all Linux systems.

                                        Yeah I think we are never going to go over 2 hosts for the Citrix farm. So that will do. 🙂 Thx again Scott.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          DRBD is used as the base for HA in many NAS storage systems.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @hobbit666
                                            last edited by Dashrender

                                            @hobbit666 said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions:

                                            The difference is that DRBD does not do scale out, you need Starwind for that. But for two node mirrored replication, it's unbeatable. It's the same technology we use for storage clustering on all Linux systems.

                                            Yeah I think we are never going to go over 2 hosts for the Citrix farm. So that will do. 🙂 Thx again Scott.

                                            Just wondering, why do you need shared storage for a Citrix farm? Doesn't that kind of defeat the farm part?

                                            Now that I think about my question more, I guess the shared storage is less about the farm, and more about your VM infrastructure.
                                            But then I wonder, why are you limiting the VM infrastructure to potentially only two hosts?

                                            And is something like VSAN really needed to protect a Citrix farm? I thought Citrix farms were like ADDS servers, and typically we don't need VSAN to protect ADDS servers.

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