Consulting for a Small Construction Company
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@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
They do have a couple XP machines still in use that I was thinking we could P2V (they have expensive, licensed software on those machines, so that's why). @scottalanmiller , if I did this, would licensing be an issue if the server has multiple processors? I know you've talked about this before but I can't remember if it was only if it had more than two processors.
Only matters if you assign more (cores to the VM) than what they have licensed and what kind of key it is.
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@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?
Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?
I actually have no Xen experience...sadly...
Do you have Hyper-V experience? Jared feels Hyper-V has the lower learning curve. I feel XenServer does. I think even he would agree given your Linux background that XenServer would be easier for you.
I do have Hyper-V experience. I have a lot more experience with VMware but I have done a decent amount of work with Hyper-V 2012.
I am sure you would be fine with any hypervisor
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@IRJ said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?
Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?
I actually have no Xen experience...sadly...
Do you have Hyper-V experience? Jared feels Hyper-V has the lower learning curve. I feel XenServer does. I think even he would agree given your Linux background that XenServer would be easier for you.
I do have Hyper-V experience. I have a lot more experience with VMware but I have done a decent amount of work with Hyper-V 2012.
I am sure you would be fine with any hypervisor
You're probably right. I'm pretty good at figuring things out, and my Google-Fu is strong. And worst case scenario, I have this amazing community as well! I usually try to figure it out first, but I have no issues asking for help when I need it.
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A big reason I wanted to have this discussion is to help me think of things I just hadn't thought about, or think about things in a way I hadn't considered. Also, I'm still relatively new to IT, and most of yous guys (yes that was intentional
) have a lot more experience than me. It'd be an injustice to both my friend (the client) and myself to not ask for your collective expertise. -
This is insane.. Small contruction company? Yeah they don't need any of these. They don't even need IT. They can just buy their fresh books or whatever. And email and email service like zoho or office 365 plus cloud storage.
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@Jason said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
This is insane.. Small contruction company? Yeah they don't need any of these. They don't even need IT. They can just buy their fresh books or whatever. And email and email service like zoho or office 365 plus cloud storage.
The biggest thing that I forgot in my OP was that they want to setup a software that uses a server-client model, but I don't see why we couldn't do that on a hosted platform.
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@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@Jason said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
This is insane.. Small contruction company? Yeah they don't need any of these. They don't even need IT. They can just buy their fresh books or whatever. And email and email service like zoho or office 365 plus cloud storage.
The biggest thing that I forgot in my OP was that they want to setup a software that uses a server-client model, but I don't see why we couldn't do that on a hosted platform.
The most important consulting that you could do is talking to them about that software. what insane person buys NEW client/server software in 2005?
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Oh wait, it's 2016, sorry, had a flashback to all of the times we said you shoudn't do this over a decade ago.
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Did their new shipment of Windows XP desktops just arrive, too?
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@scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
Did their new shipment of Windows XP desktops just arrive, too?
There laptop's with Floppy Drives.
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@aaronstuder said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
Did their new shipment of Windows XP desktops just arrive, too?
There laptop's with Floppy Drives.
Oh good, so they don't have to use cassettes any longer.
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If they are just looking for a project management/ticketing software just spin up a redmine instance somewhere out in the cloud and use that. You can create/manage accounts locally on the server, or sync it with AD.
If you're feeling really lazy: https://www.turnkeylinux.org/redmine
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@scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
Here is where I would go based off of the size and scenario without further information:
- No directory. They are too small, this is just wasting money at their size.
- CentOS Samba4. Free forever.
- Azure AD. No servers on site, no local dependencies.
- I wouldn't even consider a number for (which includes legacy AD.)
In that order.
I reading this, I like this list a lot and was thinking the same.
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@RamblingBiped Redmine looks neat. Have you used it?
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@DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?
Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?
I actually have no Xen experience...sadly...
It's the most simple Hypervisor out there.
yeah - no, I won't give you that!
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@aaronstuder Yes, we use it here for a lot of our project management.
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I second @Jason's mention of Zoho. Free for the most part and you can integrate their help desk, crm, invoicing, etc apps. I use their service for my personal email domains and it's a great service.
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@Dashrender said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?
Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?
I actually have no Xen experience...sadly...
It's the most simple Hypervisor out there.
yeah - no, I won't give you that!
Ya. Xen Orchestra is easy to use. XenServer itself is more difficult.
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@Dashrender said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?
Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?
I actually have no Xen experience...sadly...
It's the most simple Hypervisor out there.
yeah - no, I won't give you that!
Vmware might be the easiest. It is awfully easy. But I've found XS to be easier.
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@thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
@Jason said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:
This is insane.. Small contruction company? Yeah they don't need any of these. They don't even need IT. They can just buy their fresh books or whatever. And email and email service like zoho or office 365 plus cloud storage.
The biggest thing that I forgot in my OP was that they want to setup a software that uses a server-client model, but I don't see why we couldn't do that on a hosted platform.
Actually it's almost an assured failure on their part for considering a solution that isn't solely cloud/smart phone app based. The need for a local server for this type of solution seems just wrong. So that too will save you/them from managing a VPS for this solution.
