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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said

      Why would you need two?

      I've only ever followed the directions from MDaemon to generate a certificate for what I need, which is always in the format of

      mail.domain.com

      Are you saying I can add the straight IP as well? On the same one?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        according to this
        https://support.globalsign.com/customer/portal/articles/1216536-securing-a-public-ip-address---ssl-certificates

        you can have the IP be the common name. You can use SAN Secondary Address Names to a single cert (SAN certs cost more money, but one cert can have at least 5 additional names, maybe more, so you save money )

        So if you wanted the IP to not give errors, then you could set the IP as the common name, and mail.domain.com in the SAN

        Though I wonder, why do you need the IP itself to not give an error? Do you purposefully have users use the IP? If not, and it's only you using the IP, then why spend money, you know you can safely ignore the error.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          That might work for my other stuff, though.

          If I can do DOMAIN.COM and then

          vpn.domain.com
          mail.domain.com
          iDRAC.domain.com

          to fill all my certificate needs

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          • iroalI
            iroal
            last edited by

            Startssl is free, It's easy to create and install.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

              That might work for my other stuff, though.

              If I can do DOMAIN.COM and then

              vpn.domain.com
              mail.domain.com
              iDRAC.domain.com

              to fill all my certificate needs

              Why would you do domain.com? That's not a real service is it? it's generally better off being a redirector to a real service like www.domain.com.

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill Yeah. Last time we updated at work I paid a little extra for a wildcard cert. So *.domain.com, it's all valid for the one cert.

                For my personal server, I just run Let's Encrypt.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  @travisdh1 said in SSL Certificates:

                  @BRRABill Yeah. Last time we updated at work I paid a little extra for a wildcard cert. So *.domain.com, it's all valid for the one cert.

                  For my personal server, I just run Let's Encrypt.

                  How much is a little? The last time I looked (it's been many years) a wildcard cert was 5X the cost of a normal cert, maybe more.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in SSL Certificates:

                    @travisdh1 said in SSL Certificates:

                    @BRRABill Yeah. Last time we updated at work I paid a little extra for a wildcard cert. So *.domain.com, it's all valid for the one cert.

                    For my personal server, I just run Let's Encrypt.

                    How much is a little? The last time I looked (it's been many years) a wildcard cert was 5X the cost of a normal cert, maybe more.

                    You can pickup a Comodo cert for $94/year. Looks like today's pricing has majorly changed since the last time I bought a cert, single site certs for $9. Let's Encrypt is having a real nice effect on the market!

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said

                      Why would you do domain.com? That's not a real service is it? it's generally better off being a redirector to a real service like www.domain.com.

                      That was an example.

                      Even after yesterday I still seem to be afraid to post real details online!

                      vpn.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                      mail.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                      iDRAC.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        For me it wasn't so much the cost as wondering of there was a better way than what I was doing.

                        Part optimization, part learning what else might be out there.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                          @Dashrender said

                          Why would you do domain.com? That's not a real service is it? it's generally better off being a redirector to a real service like www.domain.com.

                          That was an example.

                          Even after yesterday I still seem to be afraid to post real details online!

                          vpn.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                          mail.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                          iDRAC.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com

                          LOL - if the host name is in DNS - then your non posting of the real links here is doesn't gain you anything.

                          Google undoubtedly is looking through all of the newly registered domains daily (or rather minutely). Then Google looks to see if those domains have DNS entries, if they do, they then query every record it can in DNS. Then I bet it attempts to connect to at least the root of every record listed there, then starts the spidering.

                          The main reason to not post your real domain is to keep script kiddies who peruse forums like these for things to attack just because you were talking about it.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Look I wouldn't make fun of everyone's else fears.

                            Seriously, just kidding. I'm learning. That's the best part about ML, not just teaching, but also breaking down dumb ideas people hold on to.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Well you helped break one wide open on me today - that spiders can't just call web servers anywhere they wanna go.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said

                                You can pickup a Comodo cert for $94/year. Looks like today's pricing has majorly changed since the last time I bought a cert, single site certs for $9. Let's Encrypt is having a real nice effect on the market!

                                Where did you see $9?

                                On Comodo the cheapest I see is $76.95.

                                Or did you mean elsewhere?

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                                  @travisdh1 said

                                  You can pickup a Comodo cert for $94/year. Looks like today's pricing has majorly changed since the last time I bought a cert, single site certs for $9. Let's Encrypt is having a real nice effect on the market!

                                  Where did you see $9?

                                  On Comodo the cheapest I see is $76.95.

                                  Or did you mean elsewhere?

                                  You have to look elsewhere. I forget where exactly I saw that price, but it wasn't direct.

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                                  • A
                                    Alex Sage
                                    last edited by

                                    https://www.ssls.com/

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @Alex Sage
                                      last edited by

                                      @aaronstuder said in SSL Certificates:

                                      https://www.ssls.com/

                                      Wow, thems some bargains.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Alex Sage
                                        last edited by

                                        @aaronstuder said in SSL Certificates:

                                        https://www.ssls.com/

                                        Thanks for this.

                                        My $70 a year GoDaddy cert was up. I bought the same type of cert from SSLS.COM for $15 for 3 years. TOTAL.

                                        That is exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

                                        More money saved on ML. AWESOME.

                                        And in the process learned a lot of certificates and domain validation.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                                          @aaronstuder said in SSL Certificates:

                                          https://www.ssls.com/

                                          Thanks for this.

                                          My $70 a year GoDaddy cert was up. I bought the same type of cert from SSLS.COM for $15 for 3 years. TOTAL.

                                          That is exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

                                          More money saved on ML. AWESOME.

                                          And in the process learned a lot of certificates and domain validation.

                                          Nice!

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            I did come up with a question in all of this.

                                            Not doing any real "business" online, I never really had a need for us to validate who we were.

                                            But obviously, that is important to a company doing business online.

                                            However, does anyone ever really check that stuff? I can say I don't think I've ever taken the time to validate a certificate was the physical address and stuff I thought it was supposed to be.

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