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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @Jason
      last edited by

      @Jason said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      I see nowhere in the description that it says that it is a RAID enclosure but in the comments people are saying that it is not.

      Ah,

      Here's the correct link http://www.amazon.com/Mediasonic-ProRaid-H8R2-SU3S2-External-Enclosure/dp/B005GYDMYQ

      Wouldn't trust that "hardware embedded raid" at all. Present drives to a system, yes, raid no.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
        last edited by

        @travisdh1 said:

        Wouldn't trust that "hardware embedded raid" at all. Present drives to a system, yes, raid no.

        Problem is doing RAID remotely is terrible, too.

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        • J
          Jason Banned @travisdh1
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          @travisdh1 said:

          We should be getting a Sans Digital 8-Bay unit sometime soon here. I'll let you know how it goes. Not planning to use it for anything other than HBA/JBOD, wouldn't trust that "RAID card" included with it to do anything else anyway. The big gotcha with most of these external enclosures is finding an eSATA card that supports the port multiplier.

          Gotta be USB3.0 or thunderbolt. This is for my macbook pro.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Have you looked at the Drobo options? RAID 6 on those with SSD tiering option.

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              Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              Have you looked at the Drobo options? RAID 6 on those with SSD tiering option.

              To pricey when they hold enough drives.. unless Drobo wants to give me one.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                Yeah - it's funny - "drives are cheap, drives are cheap" I hear all the time, and so often, the drive subsystem is 2-3 times the cost of the computational and RAM portions. Drives are definitely not cheap. And good storage arrays are not cheap either.

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                  Jason Banned @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Yeah - it's funny - "drives are cheap, drives are cheap" I hear all the time, and so often, the drive subsystem is 2-3 times the cost of the computational and RAM portions. Drives are definitely not cheap. And good storage arrays are not cheap either.

                  Drive are cheap. Raid controllers and enclosures aren't.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse @Jason
                    last edited by

                    @Jason said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Yeah - it's funny - "drives are cheap, drives are cheap" I hear all the time, and so often, the drive subsystem is 2-3 times the cost of the computational and RAM portions. Drives are definitely not cheap. And good storage arrays are not cheap either.

                    Drive are cheap. Raid controllers and enclosures aren't.

                    Yea,.. I just put a ReadyNAS 314 online here,.. Cost kept me from really pushing the drives like I may have should. I should have gone Diskless and picked up the drives over a month. Ah well. Live/Learn/Repeat.

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                      Jason Banned @gjacobse
                      last edited by Jason

                      @gjacobse said:

                      @Jason said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      Yeah - it's funny - "drives are cheap, drives are cheap" I hear all the time, and so often, the drive subsystem is 2-3 times the cost of the computational and RAM portions. Drives are definitely not cheap. And good storage arrays are not cheap either.

                      Drive are cheap. Raid controllers and enclosures aren't.

                      Yea,.. I just put a ReadyNAS 314 online here,.. Cost kept me from really pushing the drives like I may have should. I should have gone Diskless and picked up the drives over a month. Ah well. Live/Learn/Repeat.

                      Some day we won't need enclousres, they will just use PCIE/thunderbolt on the drives themselves then you can just chain them all together and then plug into the computer...

                      Edit: I should be clear Thunderbolt is PCIE that's what I put both.

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                        Jason Banned
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                        spin off here: http://mangolassi.it/topic/8590/when-will-sata-be-dead

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller
                          last edited by MattSpeller

                          If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                          http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                          For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                          Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

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                            Jason Banned @MattSpeller
                            last edited by Jason

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                            http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                            For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                            Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

                            Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Jason
                              last edited by

                              @Jason said:

                              Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

                              Thunderbolt gives them GigE.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @Jason
                                last edited by

                                @Jason said:

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                                http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                                For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                                Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

                                Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

                                What kind of connector on the DAS are you using?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @Jason said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                                  http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                                  For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                                  Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

                                  Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

                                  What kind of connector on the DAS are you using?

                                  He wants Thunderbolt 🙂

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @Jason
                                    last edited by MattSpeller

                                    @Jason said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                                    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                                    For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                                    Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

                                    Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

                                    In my experience you'll have better performance from gigabit ethernet than you will with USB3. eSATA would be better than both, but not by much. Can't speak to thunderbolt.

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                                      Jason Banned @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @Jason said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                                      http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                                      For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                                      Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

                                      Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

                                      In my experience you'll have better performance from gigabit ethernet than you will with USB3. eSATA would be better than both, but not by much. Can't speak to thunderbolt.

                                      You must have a bad USB3 controller then 🙂 Gigabit throubhput is way less than USB3

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                                        last edited by

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @Jason said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                                        http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                                        For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                                        Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

                                        Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

                                        In my experience you'll have better performance from gigabit ethernet than you will with USB3. eSATA would be better than both, but not by much. Can't speak to thunderbolt.

                                        GigE can easily be carried over USB3. USB3 is much faster... lower latency, higher throughput.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Jason
                                          last edited by

                                          @Jason said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @Jason said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                                          http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                                          For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                                          Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

                                          Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

                                          In my experience you'll have better performance from gigabit ethernet than you will with USB3. eSATA would be better than both, but not by much. Can't speak to thunderbolt.

                                          You must have a bad USB3 controller then 🙂 Gigabit throubhput is way less than USB3

                                          Only 20% of it!

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @Jason
                                            last edited by

                                            @Jason said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @Jason said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                                            http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                                            For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                                            Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

                                            Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

                                            In my experience you'll have better performance from gigabit ethernet than you will with USB3. eSATA would be better than both, but not by much. Can't speak to thunderbolt.

                                            You must have a bad USB3 controller then 🙂 Gigabit throubhput is way less than USB3

                                            ¯\(ツ)/¯

                                            Possible, the USB3 stuff we have is old

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