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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @coliver
      last edited by

      @coliver said:

      @wirestyle22 said:

      @coliver said:

      If you need more then 5 ports then check out the EdgeRouter or the EdgeRouter Pro.

      I think he means subnets

      If he means subnets then we would be able to do that with any EdgeRouter and VLANs. Actually you may not even need to do VLANs as this is just routing.

      Ignore me. You're probably right with your original post

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @wirestyle22 said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @wirestyle22 said:

        @coliver said:

        If you need more then 5 ports then check out the EdgeRouter or the EdgeRouter Pro.

        I think he means subnets

        But Ubiquiti will do that no problem.

        Yeah I'm confused. I just can't think of what he means by 5 LAN's unless hes only talking about ports?

        But even that, Ubiquiti does far more than five.

        right hence my confusion as to what he could mean

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        • iroalI
          iroal
          last edited by

          Sorry for my english level.

          Yes i need 6 ports 1Gb.

          I like Pfsense because is easy to learn and manage.

          I see Ubitiqui as a great option but more complicate to install and with less support, and unfortunately i dont have enough time to install it.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @iroal
            last edited by coliver

            @iroal said:

            Sorry for my english level.

            Yes i need 6 ports 1Gb.

            I like Pfsense because is easy to learn and manage.

            I see Ubitiqui as a great option but more complicate to install and with less support, and unfortunately i dont have enough time to install it.

            Uh... That's seems backwards to me. Ubiquiti has a huge customer base and most of the configuration can be done via a very simple wizard and GUI. You'd be spending almost twice as much on something that is more complicated and slower if you went with pfsense.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @iroal
              last edited by

              @iroal said:

              I see Ubitiqui as a great option but more complicate to install and with less support, and unfortunately i dont have enough time to install it.

              You just plug it in. It is a super simple router appliance. Nothing complicated at all. pfSense should not even be talked about here.

              Ubiquiti you just update, and a wizard walks you through a setup. Very easy.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @iroal
                last edited by

                @iroal said:

                Sorry for my english level.

                Yes i need 6 ports 1Gb.

                I like Pfsense because is easy to learn and manage.

                I see Ubitiqui as a great option but more complicate to install and with less support, and unfortunately i dont have enough time to install it.

                You need 6 switch port or 6 routed ports? If you need 6 switch ports, buy an ERL and a $25 8-port Gigabit dumb switch

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @iroal said:

                  Sorry for my english level.

                  Yes i need 6 ports 1Gb.

                  I like Pfsense because is easy to learn and manage.

                  I see Ubitiqui as a great option but more complicate to install and with less support, and unfortunately i dont have enough time to install it.

                  You need 6 switch port or 6 routed ports? If you need 6 switch ports, buy an ERL and a $25 8-port Gigabit dumb switch

                  Or if you really need more control, a Netgear or Ubiquiti smart switch with 12-24 ports would still be half the price and more power than the pfSense.

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                  • M
                    mmruiz
                    last edited by

                    Really Ubiquiti is doing impressive hardware. Also I like very much Mikrotik, cheap, and very powerful.

                    Here (Spain), in my company, we used to work with Sonicwall, but we found some issues and sometimes poor customer support and change brand. Client to site and SSL VPN was not free (only included one or two licenses, it depends on model)

                    I think one of important questions is Sonicwall is an UTM, acts like firewall, router and also security appliance. Acts also like a powerful load balancer. This lasts parts are also very important for me.

                    Now we work with Cyberoam, very powerful hardware, cheaper than Sonicwall (half the prize), includes reporting (CR25 up, hard disk inside), free SSLVPN, stable, and fantastic support. We are happy with them. Now is part of Sophos company, I hope the brand will continue this good work in future, and no surprises with the new owner, Sophos.

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                    • iroalI
                      iroal @mmruiz
                      last edited by

                      @mmruiz said:

                      Really Ubiquiti is doing impressive hardware. Also I like very much Mikrotik, cheap, and very powerful.

                      Here (Spain), in my company, we used to work with Sonicwall, but we found some issues and sometimes poor customer support and change brand. Client to site and SSL VPN was not free (only included one or two licenses, it depends on model)

                      I think one of important questions is Sonicwall is an UTM, acts like firewall, router and also security appliance. Acts also like a powerful load balancer. This lasts parts are also very important for me.

                      Now we work with Cyberoam, very powerful hardware, cheaper than Sonicwall (half the prize), includes reporting (CR25 up, hard disk inside), free SSLVPN, stable, and fantastic support. We are happy with them. Now is part of Sophos company, I hope the brand will continue this good work in future, and no surprises with the new owner, Sophos.

                      Thanks for you help.

                      PD: Parece que no soy el único español por aquí 😎

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Hay unos pocos. Más de España y más hispanohablantes. México, Panamá, España y más representadas.

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @iroal said:

                          Company, at end, let me buy the Pfsense.

                          I'm thinking in this model.

                          https://store.pfsense.org/HIGH-AVAILABILITY-SG-4860-1U-pfSense-Systems-P47.aspx

                          Any other best option ?

                          Answer is going to keep being the same, Ubiquiti is better than pfSense.

                          Can the Ubiquiti handle failover from one to another?

                          @iroal If the Ubiquiti has all the features you need, then the price will be significantly cheaper than the pfSense setup.

                          Yes - Even the ERL I have with 3 ports can. you can set two ISP and one LAN, One ISP, LAN and WiFi or one ISP and two LAN..

                          We actually have a client with two ISP and one LAN configured currently.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                            last edited by

                            @gjacobse said:

                            @dafyre said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @iroal said:

                            Company, at end, let me buy the Pfsense.

                            I'm thinking in this model.

                            https://store.pfsense.org/HIGH-AVAILABILITY-SG-4860-1U-pfSense-Systems-P47.aspx

                            Any other best option ?

                            Answer is going to keep being the same, Ubiquiti is better than pfSense.

                            Can the Ubiquiti handle failover from one to another?

                            @iroal If the Ubiquiti has all the features you need, then the price will be significantly cheaper than the pfSense setup.

                            Yes - Even the ERL I have with 3 ports can. you can set two ISP and one LAN, One ISP, LAN and WiFi or one ISP and two LAN..

                            We actually have a client with two ISP and one LAN configured currently.

                            That aspect is for WAN failover. He's looking for router failover - where you have two routers instead of just one. It does that too but I don't believe we have any clients doing it. It is a more complicated setup and carries complications from the fact that you can't have the ISP link going to both routers at once by default.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @gjacobse said:

                              @dafyre said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @iroal said:

                              Company, at end, let me buy the Pfsense.

                              I'm thinking in this model.

                              https://store.pfsense.org/HIGH-AVAILABILITY-SG-4860-1U-pfSense-Systems-P47.aspx

                              Any other best option ?

                              Answer is going to keep being the same, Ubiquiti is better than pfSense.

                              Can the Ubiquiti handle failover from one to another?

                              @iroal If the Ubiquiti has all the features you need, then the price will be significantly cheaper than the pfSense setup.

                              Yes - Even the ERL I have with 3 ports can. you can set two ISP and one LAN, One ISP, LAN and WiFi or one ISP and two LAN..

                              We actually have a client with two ISP and one LAN configured currently.

                              That aspect is for WAN failover. He's looking for router failover - where you have two routers instead of just one. It does that too but I don't believe we have any clients doing it. It is a more complicated setup and carries complications from the fact that you can't have the ISP link going to both routers at once by default.

                              Can't you do 4 routers, two for each ISP?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                Can't you do 4 routers, two for each ISP?

                                Why would you need four? Why not do two, each ISP into each? What's the benefit of four?

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by

                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @gjacobse said:

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @iroal said:

                                  Company, at end, let me buy the Pfsense.

                                  I'm thinking in this model.

                                  https://store.pfsense.org/HIGH-AVAILABILITY-SG-4860-1U-pfSense-Systems-P47.aspx

                                  Any other best option ?

                                  Answer is going to keep being the same, Ubiquiti is better than pfSense.

                                  Can the Ubiquiti handle failover from one to another?

                                  @iroal If the Ubiquiti has all the features you need, then the price will be significantly cheaper than the pfSense setup.

                                  Yes - Even the ERL I have with 3 ports can. you can set two ISP and one LAN, One ISP, LAN and WiFi or one ISP and two LAN..

                                  We actually have a client with two ISP and one LAN configured currently.

                                  That aspect is for WAN failover. He's looking for router failover - where you have two routers instead of just one. It does that too but I don't believe we have any clients doing it. It is a more complicated setup and carries complications from the fact that you can't have the ISP link going to both routers at once by default.

                                  Can't you do 4 routers, two for each ISP?

                                  Look at VRRP. It is a protocol that allows for hardware failure. You would just need two routers not four.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    Can't you do 4 routers, two for each ISP?

                                    Why would you need four? Why not do two, each ISP into each? What's the benefit of four?

                                    Never mind. I saw the 'by default' portion of your post now and realized there is no point

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @wirestyle22 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @gjacobse said:

                                      @dafyre said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @iroal said:

                                      Company, at end, let me buy the Pfsense.

                                      I'm thinking in this model.

                                      https://store.pfsense.org/HIGH-AVAILABILITY-SG-4860-1U-pfSense-Systems-P47.aspx

                                      Any other best option ?

                                      Answer is going to keep being the same, Ubiquiti is better than pfSense.

                                      Can the Ubiquiti handle failover from one to another?

                                      @iroal If the Ubiquiti has all the features you need, then the price will be significantly cheaper than the pfSense setup.

                                      Yes - Even the ERL I have with 3 ports can. you can set two ISP and one LAN, One ISP, LAN and WiFi or one ISP and two LAN..

                                      We actually have a client with two ISP and one LAN configured currently.

                                      That aspect is for WAN failover. He's looking for router failover - where you have two routers instead of just one. It does that too but I don't believe we have any clients doing it. It is a more complicated setup and carries complications from the fact that you can't have the ISP link going to both routers at once by default.

                                      Can't you do 4 routers, two for each ISP?

                                      Look at VRRP. It is a protocol that allows for hardware failure. You would just need two routers not four.

                                      Yeah I was thinking simplistically. My bad

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m
                                        last edited by

                                        Let's say you set up an EdgeRouter, what would you guys recommend for the additional services that a UTM platform would normally provide?

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          @wrx7m said:

                                          Let's say you set up an EdgeRouter, what would you guys recommend for the additional services that a UTM platform would normally provide?

                                          Like what?

                                          Proxy/web filtering could easily be done via Squid.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            The ER series has a client VPN built in. I think it will do OpenVPN as well.

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