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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @travisdh1
      last edited by wirestyle22

      @travisdh1 said:

      @DustinB3403 said:

      @MattSpeller Yeah no fooling around with this build.

      🙂

      You should post iops numbers if you go this way, just so we can drool some more.

      Don't do this. Please. I'll have to add pages to my diary to account for the emotional baggage this will create.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller @travisdh1
        last edited by

        @travisdh1 said:

        @DustinB3403 said:

        @MattSpeller Yeah no fooling around with this build.

        🙂

        You should post iops numbers if you go this way, just so we can drool some more.

        I'll be head of the lynch mob if he fails to post them

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          Doesn't using a Scale device change his risk solution?

          As I understood it, Dustin plans to have two nearly synced servers over two diverse locations. In addition to that he'll have offsite backup at Rackspace or someone else.

          This allows for the company to completely loose a location and stay up and running completely (though networking will have to be considered to make sure things flow correctly).

          With a Scale solution, while it is possibly simpler to support also can't survive the main site being lost.

          Now maybe that doesn't matter, i.e. if the main site is down, the whole company would be down anyway.

          Just a thought.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403

            12x 960GB 2.5" SATA MLC Solid State Drive (Edge Server Enterprise Class) ($399.99/Each)

            Damn, that's what I paid for my 1 TB drives from HP a few years ago...

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              @DustinB3403

              12x 960GB 2.5" SATA MLC Solid State Drive (Edge Server Enterprise Class) ($399.99/Each)

              Damn, that's what I paid for my 1 TB drives from HP a few years ago...

              1TB SSD from a few years ago?

              Or Spinning Rust from a few years ago?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @DustinB3403

                12x 960GB 2.5" SATA MLC Solid State Drive (Edge Server Enterprise Class) ($399.99/Each)

                Damn, that's what I paid for my 1 TB drives from HP a few years ago...

                1TB SSD from a few years ago?

                Or Spinning Rust from a few years ago?

                Spinning rust.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  I have a nearly 5 year old IBM server that if I replaced it with SSDs would probably last me another 5+ years.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Doesn't using a Scale device change his risk solution?

                    As I understood it, Dustin plans to have two nearly synced servers over two diverse locations. In addition to that he'll have offsite backup at Rackspace or someone else.

                    This allows for the company to completely loose a location and stay up and running completely (though networking will have to be considered to make sure things flow correctly).

                    With a Scale solution, while it is possibly simpler to support also can't survive the main site being lost.

                    Now maybe that doesn't matter, i.e. if the main site is down, the whole company would be down anyway.

                    Just a thought.

                    I thought that his two main servers were at a single site.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      Doesn't using a Scale device change his risk solution?

                      As I understood it, Dustin plans to have two nearly synced servers over two diverse locations. In addition to that he'll have offsite backup at Rackspace or someone else.

                      This allows for the company to completely loose a location and stay up and running completely (though networking will have to be considered to make sure things flow correctly).

                      With a Scale solution, while it is possibly simpler to support also can't survive the main site being lost.

                      Now maybe that doesn't matter, i.e. if the main site is down, the whole company would be down anyway.

                      Just a thought.

                      I thought that his two main servers were at a single site.

                      You're probably right, I must have misread it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        You could easily be right, I just had not noticed that he said two sites. I miss stuff like that often, though. But I looked back and have not found it yet.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          You could easily be right, I just had not noticed that he said two sites. I miss stuff like that often, though. But I looked back and have not found it yet.

                          yeah I read the second site into it. It's not there.

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                          • A
                            Alex Sage
                            last edited by

                            This seems very costly to me. Are you using xByte? Have to look at a R720, or R710?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                              last edited by

                              @anonymous said:

                              This seems very costly to me. Are you using xByte? Have to look at a R720, or R710?

                              Those are xByte quotes. Did you notice all of the SSDs in there?

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                              • A
                                Alex Sage
                                last edited by Alex Sage

                                @DustinB3403

                                Dell Warranty & Onsite Service (Exclusive Offer) (3 Year Dell ProSupport 4HR 7x24 Onsite: Non Mission Critical)
                                Server no drives
                                ($10,156+/Each)

                                Why do you need such a costly warranty? Isn't the point of having 2 hosts that you only need 1 running at a given time?

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @Alex Sage
                                  last edited by

                                  @anonymous said:

                                  This seems very costly to me. Are you using xByte? Have to look at a R720, or R710?

                                  As SAM mentioned there's almost $5k of SSD in there, plus it's pretty new gear. Brand new from Dell I shudder to think of what that would run you.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    The same thing could be said for what if the server dies, that I should diversify my server fleet.

                                    To avoid issues such as firmware bugs etc.

                                    Warranties are to protect the equipment and of course the warranty could be reduced for the second system.

                                    But its the warranty to protect the equipment for the usable life.

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                                    • MattSpellerM
                                      MattSpeller @Alex Sage
                                      last edited by

                                      @anonymous said:

                                      @DustinB3403

                                      Dell Warranty & Onsite Service (Exclusive Offer) (3 Year Dell ProSupport 4HR 7x24 Onsite: Non Mission Critical)
                                      Server no drives
                                      ($10,156+/Each)

                                      Why do you need such a costly warranty? Isn't the point of having 2 hosts that you only need 1 running at a given time?

                                      I think that's got some confusing numbers in it, my math says that $10k is about what the server would run without SSD

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @MattSpeller
                                        last edited by

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @anonymous said:

                                        @DustinB3403

                                        Dell Warranty & Onsite Service (Exclusive Offer) (3 Year Dell ProSupport 4HR 7x24 Onsite: Non Mission Critical)
                                        Server no drives
                                        ($10,156+/Each)

                                        Why do you need such a costly warranty? Isn't the point of having 2 hosts that you only need 1 running at a given time?

                                        I think that's got some confusing numbers in it, my math says that $10k is about what the server would run without SSD

                                        This 10K price tag is for the Servers AND the 3 year Warranty, right?

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @dafyre
                                          last edited by

                                          @dafyre said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @anonymous said:

                                          @DustinB3403

                                          Dell Warranty & Onsite Service (Exclusive Offer) (3 Year Dell ProSupport 4HR 7x24 Onsite: Non Mission Critical)
                                          Server no drives
                                          ($10,156+/Each)

                                          Why do you need such a costly warranty? Isn't the point of having 2 hosts that you only need 1 running at a given time?

                                          I think that's got some confusing numbers in it, my math says that $10k is about what the server would run without SSD

                                          This 10K price tag is for the Servers AND the 3 year Warranty, right?

                                          Must be because that's waaaaaaaaaaay too much for a warranty.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by DustinB3403

                                            Sorry there were some math errors in there as well.

                                            Price updated to reflect list price. (I was updating an old written estimate)

                                            Sorry!

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